Yoshi & Team need to man any future FF Onlines

[Rumpelstiltzkin]

Tanaka is enough proof for me that just because you made one good game does not mean your next one will be good. For me Yoshida and his team have done a great job considering what they were aiming for, but like someone above said it is way too bland to impress me aside from how it looks. They aimed for generic and got generic, which is fine becaue of the situation they were in. However I would much rather have someone who seems to want to take the genre forward, like the devs on Everquest Next and honestly I don't think Yoshida is that person. From interviews and such I have seen/read since he took over his overarching ideas/philosophies just seem quite too standard and feel quite frankly rather old. I think he was perfect for FFXIV:ARR because they could not afford to take any risks and needed standard, his ideas seem to fit well with the current/quite old generation. A generation of games that are not the future of the genre anymore imho and so far he has not shown me anything to suggest he would fit well with what seems to be on the horizon for MMORPGs. I'd rather they get someone more in tune with the future in terms of how they view the genre, what makes a great adventure etc. Of course I could be entirely wrong and I would love for Yoshi to prove me wrong, but I won't ask for it since I am doubtful.

[Evangela]

I'll be too old to play MMO anyway. probably will have to raise my kids instead of playing video games while they're crying.

[Gardes]

Oh yes, no endgame content at all. Just an fyi, 'Endgame' is not the sole domain of the top 1%ers on the bleeding edge of progression. Endgame refers to things for players to do once the Level Cap has been reached.
And once you reach the Level cap on one Job, you can level another, and that content becomes 'relevant' again.

You need to look at it from the perspective of a newer player, or someone who wasn't already job capped when 2.0 launched. Theres a plethora of things to do within XIV once you reach the 'Endgame'

You're just counting them based on the fact that they're there though. Save for the roulettes, most players would just go straight for the most relevant content. The rest is either done once because they needed it to go to the next relevant content or not at all. Lots of new players in my FC had not beaten t1-t4 but had beaten t5 with my fc's help. We can offer to help them go there but the challenge really isnt there and it's just weird to keep checking if they want to go there if they're not interested in the ilvl reward it provides. The remove echo and downgrade ilvl argument is also useless because the armory system too restrictive to let anyone carry that much gear for the sake of syncing down /plus/ finding 7 other people with the same thing in mind.

Basically instead of having a theme park that just grows bigger and grander as time goes by, we have SE's crew working around the clock making a roller coaster to replace a roller coaster they just put a few months ago, replace the carousel with another one, etc etc. They do add things to expand the scope but they're minor at best (treasure hunts) or goes wrong and then gets forgotten (hunts). Once the expansion rolls around, new players joining there will get to 1-50 and do the msq, then continue doing the msq as they level to 60. All the i55-135 content will just have no point for them or they won't have enough people interested enough to help them redo all these content because the rewards are damn near pointless. Only a few will be able to do it with friends. 1 and half year of tireless work made obsolete just because they made it that way.

[Souljacker]

Tanaka is enough proof for me that just because you made one good game does not mean your next one will be good..

I tend to give Tanaka a little latitude because he was basically told that the game has to be as unlike FF11 as possible. That's why it ended up being a steaming pile - not because he was out of ideas. 11 is still running and content is being pumped out at a record pace under his resumed watch. In fact, I wish that SE would lock him and YoshiP in a room together so they can exchange more ideas. Don't hate Tanaka for trying to make the best of a really terrible directive from the executives.

[ApolloGenX]

I'm not sure why you would want Yoshi to do another MMO. This mmo, while very pretty offers little over old MMOs. Quite frankly, I am not a huge WoW fan, but that expansion is looking more interesting than the incredibly hamster wheelish feel of this game design....and it's comparatively very old game.

[Tupsi]

Tanaka is enough proof for me that just because you made one good game .

Lol "one good game" - Was FFXI your first Square game?

[OdinEon]

I greatly disagree with this post.

The game is bland, overly simplistic, has limited content at endgame which is not improving over time at this point, has limited jobs.

FFXIV 1.0 was a steaming pile of crap. Yes they made it acceptable but it is still a fragment of what other major themeparks mmos are and extremely linear and limited in all aspects of the game.

They have to improve this game 2-3 fold and add lasting content before they get a pass from me. Game went from a solid F score to a C-.

Lets hope this expansion adds alot of stuff to do in this game that last more then 6 weeks.

Wow, you have 12 classes at 50, you must really enjoy "bland games"

[Rumpelstiltzkin]

I tend to give Tanaka a little latitude because he was basically told that the game has to be as unlike FF11 as possible. That's why it ended up being a steaming pile - not because he was out of ideas. 11 is still running and content is being pumped out at a record pace under his resumed watch. In fact, I wish that SE would lock him and YoshiP in a room together so they can exchange more ideas. Don't hate Tanaka for trying to make the best of a really terrible directive from the executives.

That is true actually. Quite frankly I didn't really mean to hate on Tanaka either although it sure sounded like it. I stand by what I said it the rest of my post, but you are right.

Lol "one good game" - Was FFXI your first Square game?

It was my first SE game within the genre which is all I care about in this instance since MMOs are just a whole other beast compared to single player games.

[Tupsi]

Wow, you have 12 classes at 50, you must really enjoy "bland games"

She played since 1.x, when they were actually taking the game into an interesting direction and it was far faster to level in that game than this one. Craftin leves for example provided you the materials.

It was my first SE game within the genre which is all I care about in this instance since MMOs are just a whole other beast compared to single player games.

Yeah..because he's known for most of the games that Square got praised for in the 90s, actually and worked on most others in some regard. He was told to make XIV different from XI and that's where it fumbled, so it's not like he is known for making terrible games.

[Saseal]

I've tried a lot of MMOs in the past - none have held me more than a month, other than RO (the first), nor made me throw money at them. I'd say they're doing something right - at least for me.

They're continuously adding content rather than letting things stagnate (too long, anyway), they have myriads of things to do after you've hit 50, they have a storyline that isn't so dry that you forget it exists, cinematics, beautiful scenery (I'm constantly touristing via screenshots, even though I'm definitely not new), adding new actions and dances that are beautifully animated, seasonal events, new dungeons and difficulties, additional quests, celebratory items (wine bottles, fireworks, etc), sidequests that are both long and short (and entirely amusing, Mister Hildebrand)...

...so much persona customizations that I don't know what to do with myself (I'm in love with the fact that there is so much you can do to customize). Chocobo colors, chocobo barding, chocobo naming, chocobo skills, etc; armors are all pretty distinct from each other from head to tail and all show up (except belts) - hell even the tiny little ring accessories show up! - Housing, personal rooms and furniture placement; retainer appearance, name, voice and attitudes; a few million minions and mounts; clothes dyes; glamors over good but ugly gear for character personalized gear... Hell, me choosing a voice for myself and not just from a dinky option list of two or three stereotypical voice types (youthful, superheroish and super deep)!

They give us Leves and FATEs and hests and dungeons to level (especially when you no longer have story quests to suppliment, if you're leveling a second + class) and gain currency from -
DF for those that may play solo or may be the only one online in the FC at the time and want to level or story progress or farm an item drop.
Re-playable trials without waiting for 2 hour boss spawns that are taken down in 2 seconds by over-geared high levels that give you no chance (I guess kind of like the hunts... but Trials > Hunts in terms of fun). (Sure, the queue times may be bad on some servers, but it's not like they sat there and decided this =p It's a player created problem).
Skippable cut scenes! *thanks the heavens*
Cross skills (especially at low level)!
Costumes!
Ability to sit in a chair or sit on a floor (...yeah, um, it's weird, but I love it xD
/changepose ability!

And then the little details... like coming out of the rain or out of a hot tub or body of water and leaving puddles behind. Or the sounds of different armors (chain clanks vs leather squeaks) as you move, or t he amount of 'people noise' based on how much of a player crowd there is in the vacinity.... weird things, but there's a lot of detail! xD

The fact that I can make this MY character, rather than what I'm given by limitations is a huge plus. My chocobo, My looks, My room, My house - huge plus.
The fact that it does poke fun at itself at times ("Don't tell me you'll give me another one of your stoic nods, again..." "*Nod*") and - while I admit to skimming some lengthier dialogue - still interesting storyline with twists and turns that AREN'T way out in left field in mad scrambles for ideas... That it DOES allow you to do everything (well, nearly everything... *pokes at the coils*) is a sheer joy for me.

While there are troubles and issues and etc, everything has this - no one, no game and no thing is immune. For what they've given us, I don't complain much about the faults that I do find. The good outweighs any bad (*sniffle* *pokes coils again*).

And I am super -super- glad it's not really a monster grind-fest like some KMMORPGs I've played.... (granted, atma... but still, there are options to do in the mean time!)