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    Quote Originally Posted by Corfish View Post
    I just know these are the "official" reasons I've seen/heard. I know on Siren it's honestly not that big of an issue, but I'm fairly certain Siren is smaller too, so I'm not sure just how bad it really is on the large servers.
    It's not a visible issue on Balmung, to my knowledge, and it's one of the largest servers. The only issue is chat spam, really, and usually there are only 1-2 bots spamming shouts, and once those get blacklisted, then it's usually pretty quiet. But then again, that's just my perception. Someone else may have severe problems instead. Or it could be that my server is nigh impossible to create new characters for. I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    It's not a visible issue on Balmung, to my knowledge, and it's one of the largest servers. The only issue is chat spam, really, and usually there are only 1-2 bots spamming shouts, and once those get blacklisted, then it's usually pretty quiet. But then again, that's just my perception. Someone else may have severe problems instead. Or it could be that my server is nigh impossible to create new characters for. I dunno.
    check the MB for elemental shards, grade 4 materias and demimaterias. Here you have usually where RMT hurt the game the most. You can check, there are 8 bots in Balmung who farm materias 100% of the time since the beta, mostly in south shroud or north shroud. When I was in balmung, I was often forming PK parties to get rid of them for the day and ruin their business
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    check the MB for elemental shards, grade 4 materias and demimaterias. Here you have usually where RMT hurt the game the most. You can check, there are 8 bots in Balmung who farm materias 100% of the time since the beta, mostly in south shroud or north shroud. When I was in balmung, I was often forming PK parties to get rid of them for the day and ruin their business
    Maybe I'm having a hard time understanding some of your terminology, but... you're from Cerberus, and PK (player-killing) isn't a thing in FFXIV. So... I'm confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Maybe I'm having a hard time understanding some of your terminology, but... you're from Cerberus, and PK (player-killing) isn't a thing in FFXIV. So... I'm confused.
    I moved a week ago, I was on Balmung before that. and you can PK... sort of. You can include a player in AoEs and kill them that way. For RMT it's just that simple : wait for them to attack a mob, begin a trade, watch them die. PK in a game without wild PvP. you just have to form a party of 4/5 people to begin trades with all the bots at once and wait 3/4 minutes for them to die
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    check the MB for elemental shards, grade 4 materias and demimaterias. Here you have usually where RMT hurt the game the most. You can check, there are 8 bots in Balmung who farm materias 100% of the time since the beta, mostly in south shroud or north shroud. When I was in balmung, I was often forming PK parties to get rid of them for the day and ruin their business
    Even though I do not disagree w/ your tactic. You do realize that you can get banned for this post correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiant View Post
    Even though I do not disagree w/ your tactic. You do realize that you can get banned for this post correct?
    Heh how so ? I did not name shame them, and when I was getting rid of them, there were no problem with ToS as far as I know. A human player would have reacted at least by raising and coming back instead of staying dead in place for more than a week. Can't really say messing with a bot's programm is harassing another player, right ?

    Anyway, I stopped that long ago, if I am to take a warning for it, then so be it, I have no regret about keeping the materia market safe from RMTs for a few days
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Heh how so ? I did not name shame them, and when I was getting rid of them, there were no problem with ToS as far as I know. A human player would have reacted at least by raising and coming back instead of staying dead in place for more than a week. Can't really say messing with a bot's programm is harassing another player, right ?

    Anyway, I stopped that long ago, if I am to take a warning for it, then so be it, I have no regret about keeping the materia market safe from RMTs for a few days
    The first rule of MPK is you don't talk about MPK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    The first rule of MPK is you don't talk about MPK.
    If GM's don't care about banning them why would they care about people letting bots die? They are just ignoring the bot issue as a whole, so grief them all you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    If GM's don't care about banning them why would they care about people letting bots die? They are just ignoring the bot issue as a whole, so grief them all you want.

    I would love that this was true... but I readily believe GMs would giveth the proverbial smack-downeth on anyone found MPKing another player, even if it's a bot. :/
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