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  1. #911
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    Delmania Shadowstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardan View Post
    Would probably have to make it single target, or make it on a longer cooldown of around 2 minutes just to not steal Bane's thunder.
    Make Aetherflow like the warlock's Soulburn ability in WoW, so that when activated, it adds additional effects to your spells. Then you could collapse Bane into tridisaster, and rengineer Bane into a better AoE skill.
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  2. #912
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    Einheri Sigurd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Make Aetherflow like the warlock's Soulburn ability in WoW, so that when activated, it adds additional effects to your spells. Then you could collapse Bane into tridisaster, and rengineer Bane into something else.
    Run Delily! Run! They are going to get you! This is Final Fantasy! Not wow how dare, DARE I SAY! you want our beloved Summoner class to be more like one from that game!


    But yeah my idea for tridisater was a single target QoL change to help with ramp up. Needs a long enough timer to not be abused. But would work great with bane for cleave fights.

    Blizz 2 sucks. 2.5 recast with 50 potency 20pot/sec. AOE fights, 5 or more targets, is our weakness.

    Something Like -Shadow Flare II; 9 sec channel with 75 potency per tick and a high MP cost-25pot/sec could help up with AOE fights but not bring the class into the AOE specialty of BLM.
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    Last edited by Einheri; 11-05-2014 at 06:18 AM.

  3. #913
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    Run Delily! Run! They are going to get you! This is Final Fantasy! Not wow how dare, DARE I SAY! you want our beloved Summoner class to be more like one from that game!
    You mean a dpsing caster machine? Yes plz! Who needs downtime anyways? XD
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  4. #914
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    You mean a dpsing caster machine? Yes plz! Who needs downtime anyways? XD
    We just need Life Tap and Drain Life and we're there.
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  5. #915
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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    Run Delily! Run! They are going to get you! This is Final Fantasy! Not wow how dare, DARE I SAY! you want our beloved Summoner class to be more like one from that game!
    Aww!! >.< /em "Run away"

    In all serious, my two biggest beefs with the class are that we don't have a real CC option (I would LOVE to get sleep from THM), and as Dwill pointed out, we don't have a good burst AoE ability to get rid of adds. I mean, sure Quickcasting Tridisaster and run until the mobs tether works, but it's not always the best choice..
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  6. #916
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardan View Post
    Would probably have to make it single target, or make it on a longer cooldown of around 2 minutes just to not steal Bane's thunder.
    Of course this would have to be single target. An AoE like this would be way too strong and knowing Square Enix, they would put a 5-6 minutes CD on a skill like that were it ever an AoE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    Pending the fate of aetherflow in 3.0 (another stack if per new possible level cap?), I'd love to see something like this for Fester. Lower the %age an npc, the higher the potency, or even a higher chance (perhaps 100% @2%) for crit's to land.
    I really hope Square Enix is aware that we don't need more Aetherflow stacks. If it gets any kind of change, it should be a trait that buffs the MP return for Summoners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Aww!! >.< /em "Run away"

    In all serious, my two biggest beefs with the class are that we don't have a real CC option (I would LOVE to get sleep from THM), and as Dwill pointed out, we don't have a good burst AoE ability to get rid of adds. I mean, sure Quickcasting Tridisaster and run until the mobs tether works, but it's not always the best choice..
    And the sad thing is that this isn't even bursting, it's just setting up other jobs' burst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Make Aetherflow like the warlock's Soulburn ability in WoW, so that when activated, it adds additional effects to your spells. Then you could collapse Bane into tridisaster, and rengineer Bane into a better AoE skill.
    I think Aetherflow is fine as it is. The way to better AoE is by making Tri-Disaster not be a total disaster of a skill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    DWILL!!! You are to approve of all my ideas! Wait till I get my Ein's 3.0 Fantasy Spell Draft 2014 thread going! I expect a full report from you and exstal and Akiza :
    You can be sure I will be commenting on all the Summoner changes comes 3.0!
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    Last edited by Dwill; 11-05-2014 at 06:26 AM.

  7. #917
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    Einheri Sigurd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Aww!! >.< /em "Run away"

    In all serious, my two biggest beefs with the class are that we don't have a real CC option (I would LOVE to get sleep from THM), and as Dwill pointed out, we don't have a good burst AoE ability to get rid of adds. I mean, sure Quickcasting Tridisaster and run until the mobs tether works, but it's not always the best choice..
    Shiva and Garuda Puff Puff attack. Puts all male characters into a daze.

    Bam CC there you go!

    I can't help you with the burst. I mean then why bring any one else?
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    Last edited by Einheri; 11-05-2014 at 06:28 AM.

  8. #918
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    We just need Life Tap and Drain Life and we're there.
    Coming to us in the form of a trait point allocation system. Want a one shot complete hp/mp heal every few seconds (obviously would be changed to a longer cooldown just cause of the op cries) Then just trait everything into Energy Siphon and watch those number soar.....
    Nah but really, I'd die happy if they added a new trait system with the expansion. Kinda like alternate advancements ala EQ. Framework is there thanks to how PvP traits/skills work, just it would be like the previous version before the rehaul.
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  9. #919
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    Coming to us in the form of a trait point allocation system. Want a one shot complete hp/mp heal every three seconds (obviously would be changed to a longer cooldown just cause of the op cries) Then just trait everything into Energy Siphon and watch those number soar.....
    Nah but really, I'd die happy if they added a new trait system with the expansion. Kinda like alternate advancements ala EQ. Framework is there thanks to how PvP traits/skills work, just it would be like the previous version before the rehaul.
    SE needs to fix bonus traits all around. They are all pretty useless besides crit. Det it just crappy atk/spl power may as well just have a few more main stat. "No one" wanst skill/spell speed. Does any one seek piety? It sorta just taken as it comes right? Parry is mediocre at best.

    Get rid of the stat bonus allocation and add a trait line to specialize in.
    Recast- chance for a weaker second attack/heal
    Splash- Chance for a small damage/heal to effect those near target
    Crit- More Crits
    Crit Power- Bigger crits
    Determination- +Mitigation Tank stat!
    Avoidance- What I just said. Mc Hammer Tank stat!
    Regenerate-Hastens Mana/Tp regen

    Dungeons/Raids can drop armor with your main stats + Materia slots how many based on ilvl that a crafter can creat using PVE content drops or soul binding, so every one can have fun! Now you can customize your play style! S T Y L E!
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    Last edited by Einheri; 11-05-2014 at 06:43 AM.

  10. #920
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Tri-Disaster, remove bind add contagion effect.

    Retool Garuda to AoE pet
    Retool Ifrit to Single Target pet
    Retool Titan to a better emergency tank mainly add a provoke type attack.

    Mikeylikesit idea

    Add Shiva Egi as a cinematic type spell where her Diamond Dust causes a frozen effect with damage.
    Add Leviathan Egi as a cinematic type spell where it's Tidal Wave cause a push back with damage.
    Add Ramuh Egi as a cinematic type spell where his Judgement Bolt cause paralyze with damage.

    Summoner specific Limit Break; LB1 - Odin Egi (Gungnir), LB2 - Alexander Egi (Judgement), LB3 - Bahamut Egi (Mega-Flare)

    Remove stun and silence from all pets!

    Add an appearance change when you use spur to increase size and design.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 11-05-2014 at 08:14 AM.

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