Page 3 of 16 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 13 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 151

Thread: Undercut Hell

  1. #21
    Player
    Morningstar1337's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    3,492
    Character
    Aurora Aura
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Maybe I'm one of those people that just feels a cheaper market for the buyer is better for everyone.
    Welcoem to the world of ecocomics. Where SE screws the consumer over by overpricing certain things, causing the players to screw over over players to get said things.

    Also RMT isn't helping that one bit
    (2)
    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 11-04-2014 at 05:23 AM.

  2. #22
    Player
    Tupsi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    3,149
    Character
    Odsarzol Que
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    The value of a good is what someone is willing to pay for it, don't cry just because someone else is willing to make less money than you.
    Someone else wanting to make less money than you means you'll make no money or even less than them simply because they don't care for a profit. If something consistently sells for 800k, why are you undercutting to 300k and causing people to undercut THAT to even lower till it floors out?

    People were willing to pay 800k, so why undercut massively to sell faster when you could have made so much more profit? Especially when we already know most people that undercut aren't the ones even making the items, they get it from retainer ventures or 2nd hand.
    (2)

  3. #23
    Player
    DenzelTaru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    494
    Character
    Denzel Taru
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    So what I hear you saying is that low prices for consumers caused by competition ruin economies?
    no what i am saying is dropping the price by 10-50k at a time is ruining it.. i knew i would get many trolly answers or answers like "so its only good if it goes your way" people fail to see what it does when people drop it like that..

    a 1gil price war is alot better than a 10k war..
    (1)


    Latest Video: The ill FATE of a Ninja https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKVZ-biCMpg

  4. #24
    Player
    NyarukoW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    842
    Character
    Ai Hana
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    ..
    People were willing to pay 800k, so why undercut massively to sell faster when you could have made so much more profit? Especially when we already know most people that undercut aren't the ones even making the items, they get it from retainer ventures or 2nd hand.
    Massive undercuts means you get a chance at a massive windfall. Buy it up quick and sell it at the price you want and profit! Been there done that. It works good makes lots of gil easy off someone else's impatience.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    ... Do you have any empathy for people who try their best?
    Empathy and markets don't mix. Empathy does not give you the right to price gouge someone else either. I do have empathy, but you are talking about pricing, and pricing is a cold blooded (fill in the blank). Fact of life , applicable in game too, prices are always too high when you want to buy and too low when you want to sell. The odds that the timing of the matter lines up with your situation is low. And if you want to buy low and sell high, you got to look at undercutters as source of good opportunities.
    (2)
    Last edited by NyarukoW; 11-04-2014 at 05:44 AM.

  5. #25
    Player
    MomomiMomi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    2,527
    Character
    Momomi Momi
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    You undercut me by 1 gil, I'm going to undercut you by 1-10k, depending on the item's price. Not many things annoy me as much as a 1 gil undercut. If you want the price to stay at the current value, list your item below mine, not above it. Wait your turn.
    (16)

  6. #26
    Player
    Morningstar1337's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    3,492
    Character
    Aurora Aura
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You undercut me by 1 gil, I'm going to undercut you by 1-10k, depending on the item's price. Not many things annoy me as much as a 1 gil undercut. If you want the price to stay at the current value, list your item below mine, not above it. Wait your turn.
    ^ This. The ecomeny works via supply and demand. Emphasis on DEMAND.
    (4)

  7. #27
    Player
    NyarukoW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    842
    Character
    Ai Hana
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You undercut me by 1 gil, I'm going to undercut you by 1-10k, depending on the item's price. Not many things annoy me as much as a 1 gil undercut. If you want the price to stay at the current value, list your item below mine, not above it. Wait your turn.
    That is too predictable. Do it a few times and you are at 50% of your starting price.. guess what. Now it is a flip opportunity. By yours out and sell it for 2x, and then sell my own. All profit. Don't get emotional about pricing, it makes you lose money, in game and this is applicable to real life too.

    BTW, The market does NOT believe in "waiting your turn" by the way. The player that puts in the effort to keep their prices current and always ahead by 1gil will be first to sell and that is because they put in the effort.
    (3)
    Last edited by NyarukoW; 11-04-2014 at 05:51 AM.

  8. #28
    Player
    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    996
    Character
    Abyss King
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    There ain't no price at current value, the value is set at the bottom by SE if you sell it to NPC.

    Other stated to rebuy and resell if you want to keep on being greedy.

    Economy in there is run by humans, and letting humans control stuff, ends up begin super nice (sarcasm)

    If everything had a ceiling price, everyone could have access to everything, which is what I think a P2P should be.

    Now they open the pandora box with their Cash Shop, let's play the waiting game to see how long they'll stay putting only glamour stuff or things that don't affect the game.

    The value of a drop like a primal's item that's 0.00001% - is worth as much as your greed dictates.

    For some, that could be 1 gil.. have fun undercutting that.

    Sigh..
    (0)

  9. #29
    Player
    MomomiMomi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    2,527
    Character
    Momomi Momi
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    That is too predictable. Do it a few times and you are at 50% of your starting price.. guess what. Now it is a flip opportunity. By yours out and sell it for 2x, and then sell my own. All profit. Don't get emotional about pricing, it makes you lose money, in game and this is applicable to real life too.
    I make 5m gil in a day of selling. I don't care, buy it all you want.
    (2)

  10. #30
    Player
    Edli's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    408
    Character
    Edli Papami
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    I will never understand these topics. It's his item and he can sell it even for 1 gil if he wants to. Instead of crying over it buy and resell it. Nobody put you in charge of an item's price, you're in charge only of your own prices.
    (9)

Page 3 of 16 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 13 ... LastLast