The girls of patch 2.4

[Tiggy]

Well it is debatable wether she summoned Shiva at all. I would say she somehow merged with her. Also, are we sure she can temper? She isn't an actual primal after all.

Even Minifilia is surprised that crystals and willpower is all that seems to be required to create a primal comparing it to Good King Moogle Mog. She even says as such. She didn't postulate that Shiva may not have been a summon. They never doubted that for a second and these are the people in the realm that are experts on the topic. So as far as we know based on the way the characters treat the events of 2.4 we can deduce that she is indeed a primal since they seem very content with that result. As such she has all the abilities of a primal such as tempering even though we just didn't see her use it. Honestly, we never gave her a chance to use it since we took her down the moment she was summoned(born?).

*This part is speculation*
As for her merging with Shiva that does seem to be possible since this was a unique summoning in the story. It's also possible that she was acting in a similar way to the artifact the Ascians keep giving to the beast tribes. They use these artifacts it to summon their primals in addition to massive amounts of crystals. Judging by her using Haedalyn's quote it's entirely possible Iceheart has echo and was able to summon shiva due to having echo thus acting like a medium in place of the artifact. This follows along with the existing story where Minifilia is trying to figure out what the echo is exactly and the quote is one of those "so the plot thickens" kind of moments. I'm very interested in seeing where this plot thread goes.

[Balipu]

Tsubame, by far, she was refreshing in a way and soo good as ninja.

They also make a pretty good team with Oboro who is totally clueless about Eorzean customs. But I will never forgive Karasu for stealing my favorite nickname.

[Ecks007]

Why no mention of Lucia? D: "Taciturn Temple Knight"

Though I do admit I enjoy Moenbryda's cheer and it is about time a Roe joined the Scions crew.

[Balipu]

Why no mention of Lucia? D: "Taciturn Temple Knight"

Though I do admit I enjoy Moenbryda's cheer and it is about time a Roe joined the Scions crew.

I have this crazy theory that Lucia is Iceheart in disguise. She acts very oddly at the end. A shame we can't create actual polls

[Ecks007]

I have this crazy theory that Lucia is Iceheart in disguise. She acts very oddly at the end. A shame we can't create actual polls

She is most definitely not Iceheart, lol. Her mannerisms, speech, ears, not to mention hair length/style, hair, skin and eye colors are completely different. No.. I think you're really reaaaaaally stretching that.

[Balipu]

Maybe you are right, but there is something fishy about her.

[Adeline]

Maybe you are right, but there is something fishy about her.

well uh...here's some pics that point out a very interesting detail about her...warning this HEAVILY hints at something, and could be a glitch:

http://aroundeorzea.tumblr.com/post/...id-extra#notes

[Ecks007]

Ah nice, I hadn't noticed that. But then I play a tall Elezen and typically tower over everything. Also.. doesn't help I rarely have my camera close up unless I'm taking screenshots.

Guess we'll know for sure in the future. Plus well, even if she is what that looks like, not all of 'them' are bad.

[Balipu]

well uh...here's some pics that point out a very interesting detail about her...warning this HEAVILY hints at something, and could be a glitch:

http://aroundeorzea.tumblr.com/post/...id-extra#notes

Her as well? Loosing that cute Elezen to the empire was bad enough.

[SummonerSenah]

My headcanon is that my character has a thing for lady Roes, but also that she has a crush on Minfilia. So when Moenbryda showed up it was like "Oh no she's hot."