Why do I bother....

[Kerwin]

I spirit binded one weekend straight. I got loads of Grade III materia, I decked out all my crafts with them and grade IIs and Is. My buddy was like "Why did you waste your good slots on IIIs when you could have placed IVs in there?"

I knew in the back of my head that a day like this would come. Screwed me over when I penta melded that old belt and red coral earring when the new stuff in 2.3 came out.

I'll just set another day aside for more SBing and move forward.

[RexenRemlap]

I think you do need this armour. I have Forager's weapon and max melds on my gatherers and I need food to hit the new nodes on MIN and BTN, the new weapons would stop that.

Also, unlike crafters, we don't just get a +3 on 1 stat for each armour piece. Seems to be a fairly substantial upgrade, although I think that is mostly aimed at FSH. If anything, DoL need the new armour much more than DoH do.

[Shadygrove]

The good news is that it seems for us Disciples of the Land, we don't "need" the new stuff. It's a luxury.

It seems to be needed for fishing. Check out this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...east-of-Famine

My fisher alt has forager's hat and rod, i70 battle accessories with +5 each gathering and perception on each piece, totals 349 gathering 291 perception.

The new legendaries take 400 or more gathering....

[BillyBones]

Disappointed with the new gathering stuff aswell. I put millions of gil in my gatherer equipment because I thought it would pay off in the future. Tbh it never did. And now they are adding new sets, which are expensive as hell (need master-demi, which is currently around 1m, among other things) as well as materia meldings. That would be fine by me, if they added new gathering materials. But they didn't. Oh wait, they did add one material for botanists and miners. The funny thing is that it can be gathered even with the old gear and is dirt-cheap on MB. There is absolutely no point upgrading your botanist/miner in this version since there is NOTHING you can't get with your old stuff. It is only worth it for fishers, but the other two classes are being neglected as usual.

[ServerCollaps]

can you hit 420/420 with the old gear without using food?

[BillyBones]

can you hit 420/420 with the old gear without using food?

I have 419 gathering without Supra and food. Perception, probably not, but it's really not that important at this point.

[ServerCollaps]

atleast on odin HQ platinum nuggets sell for 300k, since NQ are 10k
I see a lot of profit, if you are able to gather the ores in HQ instead of just NQ

[BillyBones]

atleast on odin HQ platinum nuggets sell for 300k, since NQ are 10k
I see a lot of profit, if you are able to gather the ores in HQ instead of just NQ

They are 50k on my server. And in the last 4 days only 4 pieces of them sold. The demand is very low atm. Maybe it will change in the future but I highly doubt it.

[Ooshima]

Technically DoH just need Supra mainhand and Artisan offhand with 16craft and 8control melded.

[chidarake]

I can gather platinum and ebony with just my supra and fully melded af gear and foragers hat.

no food no buff

so yeah it can be done but you need full melds