Have the tanks swapped roles?

[TheFanciestBard]

If by "prime tank" you are referring to "main tank" I'd have to say it is all due to preference, though in the most preferred situation, Paladin would be the main tank with Warrior as off tank. Reason being, Paladin are preemptive and Warriors are reflexive. Main tank and off tank are not based off of AOE power, but the ability to tank bosses better. Of course, it all comes down to player skill and preference, but in the ideal party makeup, you would find the Paladin on the boss with Warrior on adds due to the nature of the classes.

Prime as in best. Before 2.3 plds really only had chain stun up on warriors imo. A good off tank has not only good aoe but also good snap aggro and reliable crowd control. Paladin has all that. Wars with no combos ready have less snap aggro than lob>CoS>Flash. Wars have better single target threat as well as more reliable mitigation for spike damage in long fights. Not to mention flash doesn't break sleep. Overpower does.

[Asierid]

Prime as in best. Before 2.3 plds really only had chain stun up on warriors imo. A good off tank has not only good aoe but also good snap aggro and reliable crowd control. Paladin has all that. Wars with no combos ready have less snap aggro than lob>CoS>Flash. Wars have better single target threat as well as more reliable mitigation for spike damage in long fights. Not to mention flash doesn't break sleep. Overpower does.

While you're in range to CoS/Flash for snap aggro, I have done two overpowers with Steel Cyclone, which would be better at "snap" seeing as CoS is a dot and flash has that derpy split second animation. It really is no different than it was before. PLD just got less suicidal tanking lowbie dungeons now. The tanks really depend on the player. I take a decent PLD over a bad WAR regardless how they stand just because the passives are easier to use and much better over a period of time in a fight. However, I think a well played WAR does better than a PLD (Not counting using Hallowed Ground for mechanics, because lolHolmgangsucks).

Wat's sleep? We still do that?

[TheFanciestBard]

Snip.

You realize Flash into CoS is only 1 gcd where 2 overpowers and steel cyclone is 3 right? That's a long time for snap aggro. You're really going to tell your blm to wait for about 6 seconds before he can start casting flare? Wars obviously win the 'I can do the most enmity over the course of a minute' fight, since plds can't compete with berserk/unchained for enmity, but in the case of easily picking up a mob plds have the initial advantage because of their off GCD abilities.

[Asierid]

Snip

Oh. Let me make it more realistic.

Steel Cyclone into an Overpower.

The difference is really negligible at this point. Overpower is only better because it does damage whereas flash does not. Besides, PLD still makes the better OT just because of Sword Oath damage.

[Brannigan]

Oh. Let me make it more realistic.

Steel Cyclone into an Overpower.

The difference is really negligible at this point. Overpower is only better because it does damage whereas flash does not. Besides, PLD still makes the better OT just because of Sword Oath damage.

Well, Overpower is also better because Warrior can buff it with Berserk and Maim. Paladin can't do shit for Flash.

Regarding the OP, I think that warriors generally have an edge right now (higher damage while tanking, monster attack timers are better for warrior cooldowns), but it's not enough that paladins are useless or auto assigned to OT or anything. Paladins still have hallowed, and a lot of damage comes from autoattacks so shields are great.

[dday3six]

...Paladin can't do shit for Flash...

I was under the impression Fight or Flight increased Flash. Is that not correct?