Lockout Timer for Withdrawals is soo stupid

[Miitan]

It sounds like you need to be more careful with who you queue with.

[Black_Wing]

It sounds like you need to be more careful with who you queue with.

Which shouldn't be the case, SE designs a penalty system that can easily be abused. The penalty should only be going to the person withdrawing and not the entire party. Or you know.. just drop the whole thing and again just give the in prog fishers what they want and put in an "In Progress Only" option and none of this nonsense will occur. The whole reason FOR this change was due to the fishing anyway, but occasional afkers and folks accidentally hitting decline, or in a group where someone else hits withdraw get punished as well. Clearly a broken system that needs to be fixed. I am not a fisher mind you and get just as frustrated with constant withdraws but I seem to be only one of a few people who want to a solution that doesn't penalize those who are not abusing the queue system.

[Lovescake]

it was for Ramuh ex :l

[polyphonica]

Which shouldn't be the case, SE designs a penalty system that can easily be abused. The penalty should only be going to the person withdrawing and not the entire party.

It's a punishment for the whole entity because of the way it affects the other players in the queue. If you're queuing as a full party for a raid, and your party cancels, the other 16 people are impacted by any one person in your party cancelling. Hence, the whole party gets penalized. Even though it may not seem fair to you personally (since you personally didn't withdraw), it's the only fair way to do it from a system point of view (since the group you're in withdrew, impacting the queue).

Most occasional AFKers and people who make mistakes won't hit the three-time limit that results in the 30 minute penalty. It's intended to reinforce that if you're going to queue for something, you should be ready at all times.

[Lovescake]

Just withdrew myself, got another 30m timeout.

Thank you SE <3

[Alukah]

it was for Ramuh ex :l

If it was indeed for Ramuh EX (and you have no doubts your party leader didn't queue for ST instead - I'd check this first) and you also are sure you had no less than 8 members, submit a bug report, the penalty is only supposed to happen for partial premade and solo parties excluding ST, until they fix it make sure to use ready check.

[Lovescake]

If it was indeed for Ramuh EX (and you have no doubts your party leader didn't queue for ST instead - I'd check this first) and you also are sure you had no less than 8 members, submit a bug report, the penalty is only supposed to happen for partial premade and solo parties excluding ST, until they fix it make sure to use ready check.

Was definitely a full house, we had all 8 and then we queued for ramuh ex, we didnt think bout ready check cause it was literally, needs to pee, someone doing atma, then queued, but yeah i guess i'll submit one, i know it was for ramuh tho cause its what we accepted, and was our only queue.

[Madoka]

Use ready check. People who spam the instance while people aren't accepting is terribly annoying. Some people in my static would do that if they had leader for coil instead of just ready checking and asking which would just lead to the first person who didnt click OK clicking OK then someone else not clicking ok because they got up thinking the first person was afk.

Communicate.

[DmgAtton]

Was definitely a full house, we had all 8 and then we queued for ramuh ex, we didnt think bout ready check cause it was literally, needs to pee, someone doing atma, then queued, but yeah i guess i'll submit one, i know it was for ramuh tho cause its what we accepted, and was our only queue.

Well see if some of ur friends aren't griefers or if it's with your Free Company then see if those players aren't griefers either cause I like who the system is since SE is the first and only MMO company trying to eliminate the griefer from the game play of a PUG since I come from WOW I though that PUGS sucked due to the WOW PUGs being DPS races and who could hit 1 million DPS on each fight and screw achievements let's finish this dungeon as fast as we can thus Griefers make PUGs suck to me in any MMO in this MMO this system is a start to eliminate the Griefer from anyone's game experiences.

[DmgAtton]

Use ready check. People who spam the instance while people aren't accepting is terribly annoying. Some people in my static would do that if they had leader for coil instead of just ready checking and asking which would just lead to the first person who didnt click OK clicking OK then someone else not clicking ok because they got up thinking the first person was afk.

Communicate.

So true whenever I have my Free Company or friends help me out on duties (Guildhests, Dungeons, and Trials) I always ask for Readiness from the group even before this system.