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    T'yena Mitnu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Wing View Post
    Which shouldn't be the case, SE designs a penalty system that can easily be abused. The penalty should only be going to the person withdrawing and not the entire party.
    It's a punishment for the whole entity because of the way it affects the other players in the queue. If you're queuing as a full party for a raid, and your party cancels, the other 16 people are impacted by any one person in your party cancelling. Hence, the whole party gets penalized. Even though it may not seem fair to you personally (since you personally didn't withdraw), it's the only fair way to do it from a system point of view (since the group you're in withdrew, impacting the queue).

    Most occasional AFKers and people who make mistakes won't hit the three-time limit that results in the 30 minute penalty. It's intended to reinforce that if you're going to queue for something, you should be ready at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polyphonica View Post
    It's a punishment for the whole entity because of the way it affects the other players in the queue. If you're queuing as a full party for a raid, and your party cancels, the other 16 people are impacted by any one person in your party cancelling. Hence, the whole party gets penalized. Even though it may not seem fair to you personally (since you personally didn't withdraw), it's the only fair way to do it from a system point of view (since the group you're in withdrew, impacting the queue).

    Most occasional AFKers and people who make mistakes won't hit the three-time limit that results in the 30 minute penalty. It's intended to reinforce that if you're going to queue for something, you should be ready at all times.
    Yes and Thank you SE for this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Wing View Post
    Which shouldn't be the case, SE designs a penalty system that can easily be abused. The penalty should only be going to the person withdrawing and not the entire party. Or you know.. just drop the whole thing and again just give the in prog fishers what they want and put in an "In Progress Only" option and none of this nonsense will occur. The whole reason FOR this change was due to the fishing anyway, but occasional afkers and folks accidentally hitting decline, or in a group where someone else hits withdraw get punished as well. Clearly a broken system that needs to be fixed. I am not a fisher mind you and get just as frustrated with constant withdraws but I seem to be only one of a few people who want to a solution that doesn't penalize those who are not abusing the queue system.
    Boo Who someone can't do anything cause they work with Griefers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Wing View Post
    Just drop the whole thing and again just give the in prog fishers what they want and put in an "In Progress Only" option and none of this nonsense will occur.
    Duty finder queue for DPS when an in progress only option is added for tanks...



    It has been discussed to death and this is why it will never happen. Its not meant to be a get full credit for half the run option, its meant to help parties that lost someone and needs a replacement only. If you don't have time to do a whole dungeon, here's a novel idea... Don't queue. Wow. Difficult I know.
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    Last edited by AzakaTonnerre; 11-04-2014 at 09:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzakaTonnerre View Post
    Duty finder queue for DPS when an in progress only option is added for tanks...

    You know there's only so many in progress runs available. You think all the tanks are going to jump into "in progress only" to wait 20 minutes for a 0/3 run instead of jumping into a fresh dungeon immediately?
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    it was for Ramuh ex :l
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovescake View Post
    it was for Ramuh ex :l
    If it was indeed for Ramuh EX (and you have no doubts your party leader didn't queue for ST instead - I'd check this first) and you also are sure you had no less than 8 members, submit a bug report, the penalty is only supposed to happen for partial premade and solo parties excluding ST, until they fix it make sure to use ready check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    If it was indeed for Ramuh EX (and you have no doubts your party leader didn't queue for ST instead - I'd check this first) and you also are sure you had no less than 8 members, submit a bug report, the penalty is only supposed to happen for partial premade and solo parties excluding ST, until they fix it make sure to use ready check.
    Was definitely a full house, we had all 8 and then we queued for ramuh ex, we didnt think bout ready check cause it was literally, needs to pee, someone doing atma, then queued, but yeah i guess i'll submit one, i know it was for ramuh tho cause its what we accepted, and was our only queue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovescake View Post
    Was definitely a full house, we had all 8 and then we queued for ramuh ex, we didnt think bout ready check cause it was literally, needs to pee, someone doing atma, then queued, but yeah i guess i'll submit one, i know it was for ramuh tho cause its what we accepted, and was our only queue.
    Well see if some of ur friends aren't griefers or if it's with your Free Company then see if those players aren't griefers either cause I like who the system is since SE is the first and only MMO company trying to eliminate the griefer from the game play of a PUG since I come from WOW I though that PUGS sucked due to the WOW PUGs being DPS races and who could hit 1 million DPS on each fight and screw achievements let's finish this dungeon as fast as we can thus Griefers make PUGs suck to me in any MMO in this MMO this system is a start to eliminate the Griefer from anyone's game experiences.
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    Just withdrew myself, got another 30m timeout.

    Thank you SE <3
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