Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Noxotic]

Ok we need some drg parses under similar conditions to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5lTcltM_Uo

That was from this right?

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...oday_with_the/

[SolarMisae]

So what do you guys think? will ninja put us out of a job? That 10% buff for 10sec every minute and goad just seems like such good utility on top of doing really high dps numbers. I'm considering jumping ship...

[FantasyForever]

Ok we need some drg parses under similar conditions to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5lTcltM_Uo

I compared my NIN and DRG solo and the difference was about 13 DPS. Granted, I messed up on the last combo on my drg because I somehow didn't hit flank for the buff.
My DRG is pre-2.4(2.35/8?) bis for t9-flank acc(H.A. weapon on both jobs; no nexus) and my NIN is only i107 with 2 str rings instead of dex.(Didn't have any at the time I compared.) I'm 100% positive that in solo situations when my nin is as geared as my DRG I will out DPS it, no question.
I question if in a party situation a DRG would be lower than NIN considering if a NIN and DRG are in a pt together DRG will then also get the benefit of that 10% dmg taken debuff.

Also man does NIN manage TP so much better than DRG.

[FantasyForever]

So what do you guys think? will ninja put us out of a job? That 10% buff for 10sec every minute and goad just seems like such good utility on top of doing really high dps numbers. I'm considering jumping ship...

Honestly I'd say jump ship if you just want to try something different. It's much more fast paced than DRG is so keep that in mind but, switching from DRG to NIN definitely wouldn't hurt a raid group in any way.
Personally for final coil I'm going NIN main just to change things up, but come 3.0 I will most likely be switching back to DRG.

Unless Samurai comes out and it is a dps. . .Then I'll be saying goodbye to DRG. XD

[xnonamex]

Well I wouldn't say that NIN will put DRG out of job. especially if there is a bard in the party - that constant DPS increase for bard from piercing resistance. especially taking into account fights with a lot of movement - melee can never utilize full potential, where as bard can have 100% up-time at which moment the disembowel becomes even more important. Ad bard TP song still beats goad.

In general I'd say that all classes are quite well balanced and it really depends on the party setup. I doubt that difference in real battle situations between equally leveled and skilled monk, nin, drg is all that much different.

[LordMaitreya]

But it is and the higher the ilvl goes the bigger the difference is going to get.

[Eardstapa]

Well, considering Ninja parse near, and above monks it would seem (Someone already put up a rotation video with 520...) Dragoon may be less common since NIN can offer burst, sustain, and utility. I pray Heavensward helps Dragoons out...

EDIT: I also wonder if DRG is going to get another slight potency upgrade on jumps, or if they'll sneak it into skills this time...

[HulveinBlitz]

I can see them buffing DRGs directly this time, but not nerfing any of the others.

I would assume this would happen before 3.0.

[kyrios91]

I can see them buffing DRGs directly this time, but not nerfing any of the others.

I would assume this would happen before 3.0.

Yup. The only way to make DRG's favorable as a DPS option alongside NIN and MNK with their lower DPS, IMO, is to make them tanky. Give them a boost to M.DEF so we're the "tanky DPS" Job that is always associated with DRGs in FF games. Because other than resilience to mechanics, we can never out DPS MNKs and NINs. If they do decide to buff up our damage, IMO it has to be at least +50 potency to either the ID combo or the FT combo. Though if we do became the most broken-ass OP mofo in Heavensward because all of the Dragoon-focused story, this pain is worth bearing until then.

[pompey_dan]

Whats the view on..

http://xivdb.com/?item/9036/Wootz-Mask

I spent a couple mil on this 4 melded, then beat t11 the same night and got the dreadwyrm helm... lol

That was from this right?

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...oday_with_the/

lol people are reading way too far into this guys post, 520 dps over 3 min isnt amazing, his crit rate for his 2 highest damage skills were 67% and 50%...
With a few tries to get that high a crit rate on our most potent skills we could easily do alot more on a dummy over 3 min