Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Leoheart]

Quick question, is it worth clipping phlebotomize just before BFB ends?
It usually has 8-9 seconds left on it and I'm wondering if it's best to do that to get the most out of BFB when I can no longer get any more full combos off.

But for a wider perspective, I usually open as such:

HT -> ID,(IR) D, (BFB) CT -> (PS) Ph (Jump) -> TT, VT, (LS) FT -> HT (SD) -> PH (DD)
And then BFB usually wears off by then, any advise would be great

[Huntington]

DRG has one of the best bursts at the start of a fight now it seems to me from what I keep pulling off with mine.

[Dervy]

Quick question, is it worth clipping phlebotomize just before BFB ends?
It usually has 8-9 seconds left on it and I'm wondering if it's best to do that to get the most out of BFB when I can no longer get any more full combos off.

But for a wider perspective, I usually open as such:

HT -> ID,(IR) D, (BFB) CT -> (PS) Ph (Jump) -> TT, VT, (LS) FT -> HT (SD) -> PH (DD)
And then BFB usually wears off by then, any advise would be great

Nope. PPS will be higher just doing the rotation normally. If Phlebotomizes base hit was similar to that of Disembowl, then yes, that would be acceptable to do so.

9 GDCS in the next line of the rotation
9*2.5 = 22.5/3 = 7.5 ticks


HT + ID + DIS + CT + PH + TT + VP + FT + HT =
170 + 180 + 220 + 250 + 170 + 150 + 200 + 360 + 170 = 1890*1.1 = 2079 + (35*7) + (30*7) = 2534

You'd end up missing a tick of CT and DI due to you applying PH again

HT + PH + ID + DIS + CT + PH + TT + VP + FT =
170 + 170 + 180 + 250 + 170 + 150 + 220 + 360 = 1670*1.1 = 1837 + 220 = 2057 + (35*6) + (30*3*1.3) + (30*4) = 2504

Actually, I just noticed I messed up the order of the skills, but the potency will be the same even if I rearrange them.

[Aiurily]

yep. i can't achieve it at 364 (2.48) at all, but at 365 (2.47) i can do it

it's pretty consistent, but the timing is still almost unreasonably tight, if not for the gcd queue system. you absolutely can not have any delay between bfb and your next gcd; as soon as bfb animation lock ends, if you don't execute your weaponskill within within 0.033s or so, you probably won't connect it. if you miss that much in between any of your gcds within bfb, you'll probably miss it. you can still fit in all of your jumps, double buff in between gcds and x-pot just fine, though.

beyond that, i guess high ping can play a factor. i have 55ms or so pinging my server, 80ms~ through resource monitor

[Vampyren]

Hmm, yeah latency might be why. I'm all the way across the pond
But still, 2.46sec GCD is a more than reasonable tradeoff for 1.35PPS increase imo. And yeah fitting in jumps in between GCD isn't the issue here, as I can't manage to do the rotation with or without them at 2.47sec GCD.

[Aiurily]

curious what other drgs are parsing as baseline now

over 3m 10s with i125 wep im doing around 540 without party/consumables/food/mercy stroke (lol). seems ok (i117)

[Leoheart]

curious what other drgs are parsing as baseline now

over 3m 10s with i125 wep im doing around 540 without party/consumables/food/mercy stroke (lol). seems ok (i117)

Quite similar to mine, I've got 530 at i118 with Longinus also.

[Dervy]

i110, i110 weapon. I'm doing 485 DPS over 3 minutes (barely) no food, no party, no pots, no mercy stroke.

I do around 505-515 (RNjesus) fully buffed no mercy stroke on a dummy over 3 minutes. The other melee I'll be raiding with has an i119 Dragoon with i125 weap, parses 565 fully buffed over 3 minutes. I don't think he used Mercy Stroke either.

[ish007xx]

i got 595 ilvl121 party buff no mercy stroke,no food,no pots, i130 wep and 4min parse