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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    But like always people jump into conclusion without even listening to the idea. They just say no way can't happen it break the game wont fit with story blah blah blah. But it fit with the story seeing how Ice heart can do it with using crystal and summon and control a full primal under her control. It's not hard to believe you can take the appearance of the primal using your own lifeforce.
    Did you just skip over the part of the storyline where it states that Iceheart's heretics stole a truckload of crystals ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Did you just skip over the part of the storyline where it states that Iceheart's heretics stole a truckload of crystals ?


    Did you just skip what you just quote yourself? "Seeing how ice heart can do it with using crystal and control a full primal under her control"

    "ONCE AGAIN" I don't care if they add this or not i'm just giving you a example how this could work within the lore of FFXIV. You using your own Aether to control a small % of a primal to take the Appearance of the primal you wont look no where near like the primal themself. Like ifrit you have horns you have his claws and glow a little red. You still look like yourself but you have characteristics of the primal and can use some of there spell. Just like how SMN can summon a % of primal using there own Aether and can control and use there some of there spells.

    SMN: Summon a % of a primal to use in battle using there own Aether.
    ???: Use there own Aether to summon and take the appearance of a primal to use there skill and spell in battle.

    Once Again! you look like yourself you just get some characteristics of the primal. Due to the fact that you not strong enough to nce againcontrol a full blown primal like ice heart and that should never be done due to how dangerous it be for the primal to take over. So if you turn into garuda you get claws and wing if you turn into titan your skin look like rocks and so on.

    This is becoming like lancer having a second job that can summon there own wyvern topic again and at least in that one yoshi-p said that they can really do something like that. But still people thought it could not be done and they don't want to have there DRG without a pet mess up even tho it's part of it own job stone lol.


    Man it's really hard to have a decent conversation on here without people just jumping into there own conclusion ;( i wish i speak Japanese or something maybe there topic are better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
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    Impossible due to the amount of Aether needed to reach said level would inflict Aether poisoning. Again, it doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Impossible due to the amount of Aether needed to reach said level would inflict Aether poisoning. Again, it doesn't work.
    wow you most know a lot about aether and how much a player have vs a NPC. Anyways you win bro now go play elsewhere and troll other topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    wow you most know a lot about aether and how much a player have vs a NPC. Anyways you win bro now go play elsewhere and troll other topic.
    Have fun reading:

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Aether
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Yes ok once again what does that have to do with what i said? Or you did not read anything? you only take the characteristics of the primal due to the limit amount of Aether you have. Just like a SMN use it's Aether to summon a % of a primal and have it under it control. This job would just summon the primal and take characteristics of the primal. Like you use click ifrit and you get horns,claws and get use to the spell of ifrit. You still look like your race you just take in some characteristics due to the amount of Aether you have. You never be at the same level of ice heart and at the end who want too if there a chance of a primal taking you over.

    At the end it's the same thing as SMN it's just one summon and the other take some characteristics of the primal they summon.

    But i guess that too hard for people to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Impossible due to the amount of Aether needed to reach said level would inflict Aether poisoning. Again, it doesn't work.
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but don't you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly every main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but certainly dont you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly ever main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
    Thank you someone who get it also we already doing this with SMN who summon a % of a primal. But no one really worry about how us players can summon a primal due to the fact we using our own aether. It be the same thing for this primal we using our own aether not the world aether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but certainly dont you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly ever main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
    We already have basic resistance to Aether poisoning. That's what enables us to fight the Primals, do instances like Thousand Maws and use Aetheryte to teleport around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Thank you someone who get it also we already doing this with SMN who summon a % of a primal. But no one really worry about how us players can summon a primal due to the fact we using our own aether. It be the same thing for this primal we using our own aether not the world aether.
    Agrees with me = get it. Disagrees with me =doesn't get it. Sound logic there buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Man it's really hard to have a decent conversation on here without people just jumping into there own conclusion ;( i wish i speak Japanese or something maybe there topic are better.
    I'll let you know the Japanese really don't care about the summoner-egi issue that seems to only plague the English forums. You could speak Japanese to them and you'll find very little response to your hopes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but don't you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly every main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
    Didn't that guy who tried to get Belias lose his mind? And only get the same egi like Ifrit but palette swapped? I think we're overestimating how much of a primal's power our Summoner can handle.
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