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  1. #21
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
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    Impossible due to the amount of Aether needed to reach said level would inflict Aether poisoning. Again, it doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Impossible due to the amount of Aether needed to reach said level would inflict Aether poisoning. Again, it doesn't work.
    wow you most know a lot about aether and how much a player have vs a NPC. Anyways you win bro now go play elsewhere and troll other topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    wow you most know a lot about aether and how much a player have vs a NPC. Anyways you win bro now go play elsewhere and troll other topic.
    Have fun reading:

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Aether
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Yes ok once again what does that have to do with what i said? Or you did not read anything? you only take the characteristics of the primal due to the limit amount of Aether you have. Just like a SMN use it's Aether to summon a % of a primal and have it under it control. This job would just summon the primal and take characteristics of the primal. Like you use click ifrit and you get horns,claws and get use to the spell of ifrit. You still look like your race you just take in some characteristics due to the amount of Aether you have. You never be at the same level of ice heart and at the end who want too if there a chance of a primal taking you over.

    At the end it's the same thing as SMN it's just one summon and the other take some characteristics of the primal they summon.

    But i guess that too hard for people to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Impossible due to the amount of Aether needed to reach said level would inflict Aether poisoning. Again, it doesn't work.
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but don't you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly every main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but certainly dont you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly ever main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
    Thank you someone who get it also we already doing this with SMN who summon a % of a primal. But no one really worry about how us players can summon a primal due to the fact we using our own aether. It be the same thing for this primal we using our own aether not the world aether.
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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but certainly dont you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly ever main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
    We already have basic resistance to Aether poisoning. That's what enables us to fight the Primals, do instances like Thousand Maws and use Aetheryte to teleport around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Thank you someone who get it also we already doing this with SMN who summon a % of a primal. But no one really worry about how us players can summon a primal due to the fact we using our own aether. It be the same thing for this primal we using our own aether not the world aether.
    Agrees with me = get it. Disagrees with me =doesn't get it. Sound logic there buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    Except that's exactly the type of thing the Scions are trying to prevent from happening? It also required a mass amount of crystals.
    But we have one giant crystal that we float around, i'm sure Hydelaen (sp) would grant us some of her power
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion View Post
    The story mentions how Ice Heart wields the power of the Echo, and how the Echo allowed her to retain consciousness while embodying the primal Shiva.
    Wouldn't it be cool if Summoners instead transformed into Demi-Primals and gained new skill sets for each
    Sir,you suddenly let the idea in my head flows .. I think about new tank job base on arcanist.
    Once arcanist reach lv30 this new job is tank role which allows arcanist to "channel" with power of the primal to increase physical,magic defense or hp etc.
    Obviously that arcanist isn't become big primal but just in normal form with Auras around him and of course the primals which allow to channel is ifrit,titan and garuda.titan is good for mt,ifrit is good for dps and garuda's channelling is for debuffs(lower enemies str,def,bla bla bla)
    Don't know what word to call this job though,SHAMAN ? Maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Man it's really hard to have a decent conversation on here without people just jumping into there own conclusion ;( i wish i speak Japanese or something maybe there topic are better.
    I'll let you know the Japanese really don't care about the summoner-egi issue that seems to only plague the English forums. You could speak Japanese to them and you'll find very little response to your hopes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Personally I would be more worried about damaging Hydalen but don't you think resistance to aether poisoning can be lore'd and even gameplay'd around?

    It'd just be a 'nearly every main character in FF7' backdrop anyways. Or FFXI bluemage, i'd like a dark side class anyways (like FFXI blu).

    Of course going full/100% primal would both be game breaking and illogical, hitting a level lower than that shouldn't be a major issue - imo.
    Didn't that guy who tried to get Belias lose his mind? And only get the same egi like Ifrit but palette swapped? I think we're overestimating how much of a primal's power our Summoner can handle.
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    Last edited by Exstal; 11-01-2014 at 07:23 PM.

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