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  1. #401
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dark494 View Post
    On a different note, I guess Dancing Edge is bugged. You don't have to hit from the flank with it for increased potency, like the tooltip says.
    Probably another mistake of the english translation. In the german version it doesnt mention that you have to hit from the flank at all. Thanks for the confirmation on which version is correct.

    So that means ARR now has a melee with pretty much no positional requirements. Tbh that could be a balance issue if dmg is on par or higher to other melees because a position free melee will naturaly be less effected by mechanics, kinda like BRD is less effected by mechanics in comparison to BLM and deals less dmg in return. Lets wait and see though, first parses seem to have NIN quite a bit lower than MNK.
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  2. #402
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    FyrmurlFloerasksyn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Roegadyn Masterrace
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Probably another mistake of the english translation. In the german version it doesnt mention that you have to hit from the flank at all. Thanks for the confirmation on which version is correct.

    So that means ARR now has a melee with pretty much no positional requirements. Tbh that could be a balance issue if dmg is on par or higher to other melees because a position free melee will naturaly be less effected by mechanics, kinda like BRD is less effected by mechanics in comparison to BLM and deals less dmg in return. Lets wait and see though, first parses seem to have NIN quite a bit lower than MNK.
    Eh i wouldn't read too much into it. It probably won't be long until people call it the lazy dps class lol
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  3. #403
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Eh i wouldn't read too much into it. It probably won't be long until people call it the lazy dps class lol
    Won't matter how lazy it is when they puttin them numbers up. Kobe. o7
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  4. #404
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    FyrmurlFloerasksyn's Avatar
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    Roegadyn Masterrace
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Won't matter how lazy it is when they puttin them numbers up. Kobe. o7
    True. I think I'm one of the only people who actually like that positional requirements for ninja is at a minimum lol
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  5. #405
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    ShaolinMike's Avatar
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    True. I think I'm one of the only people who actually like that positional requirements for ninja is at a minimum lol
    You are not alone. I am here with you. I will stand wherever I want and whoop @$$, thank you very much.
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  6. #406
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    So which is more use TA or SA and why? Suiton give u an auto hide mid fight so u can use SATA, is that a good opening?
    Are all the mudras on same cool down? So if I do huton do I need to wait 20sec before I can do another ninjutsu?
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  7. #407
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    ShaolinMike's Avatar
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    Character
    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    TA is more useful, as it gives a 10s damage increase debuff on the target, so your whole party benefits. As an opener, it's ok for dungeon trash mobs, but you'll want to at least make sure Huton is up when you start a boss battle. All the mudras share a .5 second cooldown, followed by a 20 second cooldown after using Ninjutsu. If you cast a mudra and DON'T use ninjutsu within 5 seconds of the last mudra cast, the ninjutsu cooldown automatically kicks in.
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  8. #408
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Been playing 50 and content with my NIN for a while now. Its a very fun job and I have gotten the hang of it and doing decent results, but this is definitely the most heavy management job I have played in this game. Always keeping up AE, SE, and Mutilate at all times (Dancing Edge also if no WAR) while dealing with Mudra and managing my timing with Huton, Suiton(SATA), and Raiton. It feels like I am dealing with two different mechanics and it can be done efficiently, but will really need to know where your buttons are for bosses with heavy mechanics. Compared to MNK and DRG, this is definitely a more complex job to learn and has a heavier learning curve. Again, it is a fun job and does have it's place, but if you are not one who is good at high management jobs, I would look elsewhere.
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  9. #409
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 55
    Just copying my post from Reddit. This should yield around 450 DPS provided you cycle through both effectively.

    Lets break down the ninja rotation in terms of skill and ninjutsu

    Skill:
    The atypical rotation will be to keep dancing edge up(slashing debuff) while refreshing shadow edge dot and mutilate.
    The skill rotation will be

    Rotation 1
    Mutilate - SE - GS - Shadow Fang - SE -Dancing Edge - SE - GS - Aeolian edge

    Rinse and repeat and throw offGCDs/ CDs in the midst

    Ninjutsu:
    Generally you will be refreshing Huton for the attack speed buff, Suiton then applying trick attack for the 10% incoming damage buff, Raiton then refresh Huton

    The ninjutsu rotations will go

    Rotation 1(Without Kassatsu)
    Huton - Suiton - Raiton

    Rotation 2(With Kassatsu)
    Huton - Suiton - Raiton - Raiton

    Note:You can use Huton out of combat to advance the rotation one step.
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    Last edited by Massterchef; 11-01-2014 at 05:02 AM.

  10. #410
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kenrir Amnis
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I think you meant to switch shadow fang and dancing edge. Or two parts a are swapped. Gust slash doesn't go into shadow fang.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 11-01-2014 at 05:25 AM.

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