Please DO alter Dark Knight AF for female characters.

[Snugglebutt]

Please don't do this. Enough of sexist crap.

I play both genders because I like the femininity of one and masculinity of the other. Making armours from both genders look the same is something hardly anyone wants and those that do want it would whine and complain if had to wear an ugly male/female version just because both gendered versions had to look the same as the ugly gendered one. As long as you have choices which you very much do if don't like the look of a set for whatever reason then it's fine as it stands for me.

You prefer the male version? play a male character. Also have the option if I don't like a specific set or armour to glamour it, I have glamoured a lot of armour in this game for both male and female versions because I did not like something about them but I don't come screaming and whining on here every time a set pops up that has one or more things I do not like...whether one covers too little or one covers too much, whether do not like the shape or the colour of a certain piece within a set we have the option of changing it one way or another to something we do like but you are not required to like every gear set or every piece from every set.

In the end can't please everyone all of the time but some women like the female current version of that armour and some don't, some men like the current female version of it and some don't but not every armour must conform to only your preferences. I dislike the colosseum armour for example on female characters and male ones but you don't see me whining about it all the time because it's one armour set out of a vast array of others and if I do not like something about it I glamour to replace it with one I do like.

Not every piece of armour is going to look exactly how you want it in game but at least you have the option of replacing it visually with one do like and have the option of playing a female or male version is prefer how their armours look. Differences is good, choices is good and we have both those things of which I am glad.

[Kyros]

Belly buttons aside, most of the armor that looks "the same" on both genders is actually realistic. Real female armor doesn't have boob breastplates, they look eerly similar to male armor. The only real differences lies on the shoulder-to-waist ratios.

I was actually really happy to see the female knight on the new quests to have actual female armor on her. Flattened chest but adjusted hips. Looked really neat too.

[Theresa]

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Seriously, I can't play my gender without looking like I want to show my body? Stfu you don't know about what you're talking. The way you say "herp play male characters instead" makes me really mad.

[Fellisin]

With the exception of the Fire Emblem and the Saber armor someone posted as reference the rest of the "request" for sexy & feminine lady armors are stupid and realistically unsafe.

Seriously you're going to base an argument on "realistically unsafe" in an fantasy rpg game??

Right SE better not implement those flying black chocobos in 3.0 because those tiny wings are never going provide enough lift to be realistically safe.

*rolls eyes*

[Snugglebutt]

Seriously, I can't play my gender without looking like I want to show my body? Stfu you don't know about what you're talking. The way you say "herp play male characters instead" makes me really mad.

Way to ignore almost everything I said above minus one sentence comprised of half dozen words and I never said 'herp' so if your going to whine about something I said then at least get what I said right...I never said that was the only option open to you, it was one option out of many I listed when do not like the look of one piece of armour for a specific gender of which applies to either gender especially if prefer the other genders version, funny how you also failed to respond to 99% of the rest of the post probably because it points out the flaws in your argument.

[Anapingofness]

I just wanna add my two cents to this...

I really liked the way they handled warrior af.
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ad2OTDOhoUyvml
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...9.jpg~original

Granted, the boob plate could have been handled much better but there is a subtle design difference between the two genders.
Alternatively, go the FFXI route and make the armor skimpy on both genders. (To be fair, XIV has been really good about that where it applies i.e. coliseum set )

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...ka-Warrior.jpg (clearly this is a hume o.O )
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2.../e1/WAR_AF.JPG


Personally, I'd like to have no clipping with the 'skirt' part since I clip into everything that goes below the knees -_-;; .. it's why all of my robes get glamored.
Secondly, rather then simply a "male" and "female" version of the armor, I'd also like to see some racial differences between each set so that it looks that each armor set is tailored to a specific race. =\ The noct set really was a good example of how 'one size fits all' really doesn't apply.
If they did add gender differences between the armors then I'd want them to be subtle differences at best.

Oh and I'd rather they didn't repeat the same silliness they did with the DRG af. That was so disappointing.... That belly window... all I ever see is 'STAB ME HERE! DO IT! DOOOEEEETTTT!'

[FritoBandito]

Easy fix: add a /belly emote.

Hope someone didn't already say this :P

[Theresa]

Yes, please.

more gears like the coliseum sets, please!

why all the healer gears have to cover every inches on my skin? that's sexist.

Please go study

[Kimikryo]

Make DRK male only.
And only as starting class.


Yes I like to watch the world burn.

[Niwashi]

They can make sexy armor, they can make unisex armor, they can make ridiculous bikini armor, just give people OPTIONS! By saying you don't want this but still act you want something else, you might as well tell them "Don't make jack ever"

This thread isn't asking for options. Just the opposite, it's asking to take away options. It's asking to take away the option to play a female character as a dark knight who actually looks like a dark knight.

If you simply want another sexy armour alternative for your glamour, then sure, I'm all for it, and I suspect most of the other people complaining here are as well. (Several of them have already said so.) This thread is about whether people who want that should take the dark knight AF armour for that purpose. And to make it worse, they've asked to take away the option of having a dark knight specifically from one gender, while still allowing the other gender to have it.

You want a sexy armour outfit, fine. Ask for a new sexy armour outfit to be added for both genders. Then glamour it onto whichever tank class you want. But don't ask for one particular gender to lose their dark knight gear in the process.

1. Last time I checked, DRK AF never looked like that before. Even the most memorable one looked EXACTLY like Cecil's or had a bit more armor plating, but was still on some level skintight. This one just looks like a "darker" PLD outfit so yeah, it doesn't tickle my fancy like Monk AF or DRG AF. And that's the thing, I mainly want it to be FORM FITTING LIKE A DRK OUTFIT SHOULD, men, women, I don't care. The rest of it, I can see your point, but atleast make it different THAN PALADIN.

Great. You've finally made a valid point. It'd be nice if more of the discussion on this topic was focused on what sort of armour is best suited to the Dark Knight image, without trying to make that image into something different for women than it is for men.

As for being skintight, except for a slight flare on the shoulder plates (which is kind of necessary if you're going to have shoulder plates but still be able to move your arms), the rest of that DRK concept art looks fairly skintight to me. Of course, for that to hold true, they'll have to make sure that the versions for all ten race/gender combinations actually fit (which they've been known to fail on in a couple other cases), but so long as they manage the fit properly, I won't have a problem with it in that regard.

I just don't want to see the female version coming out different than the male version. That's fine with some of the cosmetic sets, but really goes against the dark knight concept. When we see a dark knight, it shouldn't be visually obvious what gender they are. The whole rather menacing vibe they're supposed to have relies on "dark knight" being the immediate reaction rather than "man wearing dark armour" or "woman wearing dark armour". The person (including their gender) is subsumed by the role.