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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Wootz (HQ) has the same Def as HA/Noct gear and only 2 less then Ironworks. (3 for body and legs) Definitely not game changing since Wootz HQ can be used until you get your i120-130 piece. Just capping left side gear takes 8 weeks. Melding it properly seems like the only bad part of Wootz.
    Sorry but 2 and 3 less Defense on every piece is actually a substantial amount of flat damage mitigation. thats a total of 14 less defense if you are talking vs 120 gear, and more if you are talking about 130 gear.
    Its a lot of money to burn on a sidegrade piece. While the crafted accessories last patch, were BiS all the way through this patch. It seems sort of a let down.

    (14 less defense is huge)
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    Sorry but 2 and 3 less Defense on every piece is actually a substantial amount of flat damage mitigation. thats a total of 14 less defense if you are talking vs 120 gear, and more if you are talking about 130 gear.
    Its a lot of money to burn on a sidegrade piece. While the crafted accessories last patch, were BiS all the way through this patch. It seems sort of a let down.

    (14 less defense is huge)

    14 is not huge, ask Foresight.

    The crafted accessories were not BiS unless you were in Savage coil. The same is true of the Wootz set. Its barely better then the other i110 stuff but if you are pushing progression then its worth it.

    You also can't cap i120 for 8 weeks.(left side only) i130 is all RNG from Coil since tanks are not getting sands anytime soon and when you do get a sand you'll use it on your Augmented sword.
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    Last edited by SirTaint; 10-30-2014 at 01:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    14 is not huge, ask Foresight.

    The crafted accessories were not BiS unless you were in Savage coil. The same is true of the Wootz set. Its barely better then the other i110 stuff but if you are pushing progression then its worth it.

    You also can't cap i120 for 8 weeks.(left side only) i130 is all RNG from Coil since tanks are not getting sands anytime soon and when you do get a sand you'll use it on your Augmented sword.
    Isn't the main reason people choose higher ilvl for tank because of higher Str?
    I have never played around with crafted left side, so am not sure how much Str you can get from crafted i110, but I think it should be less than i130?
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marukoban View Post
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    STR/VIT are tied to the ilvl. i130 is not realistic for 99.5% of the tanks out there. Boots are confirmed from t10 that's the only i130 drop left side drop seen. Poetic i130 requires a turn 12/13 drop, both of which nobody has cleared. Anybody that is clearing 12-13 now or in the near future will not be giving that drop to a tank. When it is the tanks turn around the 5th-6th turn clear you should be using the sand equivalent on your Augmented weapon.

    i120 also has higher strength but that gear is tied to a weekly tome cap. It takes 8 weeks to get your left side all i120 (not counting weapon) (825+825+495+495+375)/450

    A player that plans on progressing into turns11-13 will want the i110 crafted items (melded) for progression since they are slightly better then HA/Noct once melded.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBigwood View Post
    The coat usually is the one who has best stats, but needs 2 weeks to obtain, if you get a cheaper item you can start profiting from it earlier.
    Yes, leg/pants have more total stats, but I think all the other pieces (belt/head/gloves/boots) give you more stats over your ilvl 110 gear per SLD spent. For instance, I think the body provides an extra +6/+6 str/vit over i110, but belt+gloves (about the same price) provide +6/+7 str/vit.
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    I think I have decided on Shield first. I am a big supporter of the Noct Hoplon and will miss it, but the Ironworks seems just to good to pass up. But my insides are telling me to save up for The chest....

    /sigh...decisions decisions

    Input...advice? Shield or body?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    I think I have decided on Shield first. I am a big supporter of the Noct Hoplon and will miss it, but the Ironworks seems just to good to pass up. But my insides are telling me to save up for The chest....

    /sigh...decisions decisions

    Input...advice? Shield or body?
    Honestly if you are not doing FCoB right now, it won't matter much which one you get first.
    Go for the one you like best aesthetically.
    Having said that, I think Chest > Shield simply because it has more Str and Vit
    Not to mention for Shield it's only a jump of 5 ilvl if you have HA or Nexus, whereas for Body you get 10 ilvl worth of stats.
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  8. #18
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    I c your point, but I have the Noct Hoplon only. Haven't jumped on the relic upgrade train. I am feeling inside to get the chest. As it will last me a long time. ...BUt I just dyed my Lorica GOLD lol...
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    I've done it. I took the time to kinda weigh my options and compare items. I have PLD/WAR and BLM to consider, so I am going to spend in this order. Also I have no plans on stepping inside FCoB anytime soon. Working on getting a static going to finish off second coil.

    Head(nice bump in stats from my current Phlegethons) > Shield > Save for 2 wks > Feet(even though I have Noct in this spot, getting legs now will compensate for the losses taken when getting) > Feet

    That is how it stands as of now. Definitely subject to change.
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  10. #20
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    Iam Groot
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    14 is not huge, ask Foresight.
    The i90 Crafted accessories are still amazing. Wootz will be left in the dust very shortly.


    14 defense is huge, because its also magic defense and because +15% protect hello. Straight damage mitigation son, can't beat it. It's better than all your secondary and main stats on your wootz gear.

    But I do see your point on the timeline of gear progression, and how a few pieces of wootz would greatly benefit anyone on progression.


    That being said, what wootz piece would you acquire first in addition to your first poetic purchase?
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    Last edited by MythToken; 10-30-2014 at 08:58 PM.
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