It isn't *always* an advantage to pull multiple groups

[BonzaiFerroni]

I sometimes get in to parties that seem to think that pulling multiple groups of targets in dungeons like Brayflox HM should just be a standard. There are actually some parties that it really doesn't make sense for.

Example: when there are 2 melee DPS in the party.

In this example, it certainly won't speed up the rate of killing, and might even make it slower. If I am a WHM, I can contribute with Holy, but not if the tank's HP is dropping like F-bombs at a frat party. More importantly, Monks, Dragoons, and now Ninjas aren't going to kill any faster with more targets. With the tank investing enmity in more targets, they may not even be able to reach top DPS on a single target without topping enmity.

As a rule of thumb, if there is a BLM in the party and everyone is willing, I pull multiple targets. Two BLMs and it is a no-brainer. Bards are also a nice choice for pulling multiple groups, but with diminishing returns.

[Sleigh]

It's actually a huge plus to do as big a possible with any melee. MNK's AoE is competitive during Perfect Balance (only once every 3 minutes), and beyond that it's pretty bad (but still worth doing). DRG's also competitive while fully buffed and with Dragonfire Dive, but it's very TP draining and a little less strong while waiting for DFD to recharge.

Also, doing multiple pulls is really draining on TP. If a melee can spend all they have on one pull and then recover while going to a boss, it's quite a bit better than going pull by pull and having to do less AoE, or going dry.

Speed runs vary based on who you're running with but the general rule of thumb is, ideally, it's better to group up than do multiple small groups.

[Bixby]

^ That. As long as there's at least one group with 3+ mobs, I'm going to PB and spam Rockbreaker at some point anyway. You might as well give me as many mobs to hit with it as you can. I can afford the TP to do that once, maybe twice before each boss in most dungeons. I can't afford the TP to go AOE mode for long on each individual pull, even though Rockbreaker would be good for every 3+ pack.

So yeah. Big pulls, pls.

[LionKing]

It would be stupid to not having multiple pulls when you KNOWS the WHM is up for it, your tanking gear can take multiple hits and there are a BLM and a BRD/BLM in the party. Though, always ask first before you pull or you will have angry mobs coming at you raging

[Kletian]

Aoe damage is worth doing when there are 3+ targets, and it doesn't get more expensive to AOE more things at once.

[MaethusXion]

I remember back when BrayfloxHM was farmed for Myth...

Healer: pull more
me(tank): *pulls everything between first and second bosses*
Healer: *panic* not everythiiing
Me: don't bitch, you got what you asked for

[Thistledown]

Ninja seem to AoE quite adequately and can heal the tank's TP. It is not to say I always enjoy it when people mass-pull, but I am happy to swiftcast a shadow flare as an icing.

Unless the tank is way undergeared for that. Good grief them heals. I never thought I'd ever go nearlt oom as a scholar.

[Synestr]

Two stories.

1. Quarn HM. Had a BRD and a BLM to go along with a WHM. I asked "big pulls?" Heals said yes. So I pull everything to the locked door.I swear to you if that door wasn't there I would have kept going. Mobs got melted as you'd expect. In Quarn HM, the doors suck and slow us down.

2. Snowcloak. I was on BLM this time. NIN, SCH and PLD in the group. PLD says nothing and decided to run and gather everything to the first door, no protect, SS, nothing. We all follow like sillies, cause I know what is gonna happen, and reach the door. I start on my rotation and bam he is dead. Next is the NIN, at this point I am packing up shop and sprinting coz I am next. We all die. Tank says, heals and dps sukk. My only response to that, which the rest of teh group understood was; apparently so. waited teh 15 and vote kicked.

Some have the expectation others don't, as a tank be mindful of who is in your group. Pull small them work from there. If they can handle it get moar!!

[Delorean]

if you were a paladin? yeah maybe

but if you're a WAR and Unchained/Berserk is off CD, it's always worth it to pull a large group. Hell, I think it's worth it any time you can afford to spam OP for >=75% of a large pull.

But sometimes the DPS you get are a little special =\

[Synestr]

if you were a paladin? yeah maybe

but if you're a WAR and Unchained/Berserk is off CD, it's always worth it to pull a large group. Hell, I think it's worth it any time you can afford to spam OP for >=75% of a large pull.

But sometimes the DPS you get are a little special =\

Amen to that...