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  1. #21
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    Delily's Avatar
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    Delmania Shadowstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    I'm using all skills (I know some are situational), I'm really good at summoner. I think what I meant is how boring it is compared to other jobs. Maybe the issue is that there are too many repeat skills like bio bio II miasma. How many poison skills do we need? I wish the class skills had a more engaging skill system.
    I think this is a case of perspective. All classes have a rotation they do most (~80%) of the time. Sounds like you're just not very interested in the DoT playstyle. Edit: which is fine by the way. I don't particularly enjoy an archer's playstyle. It's why we have so many different classes.
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  2. #22
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Archer Lv 80
    The only reason I'm amazed anyone plays SMN ever is SCH gets parties inside a min 90% of the time.
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  3. #23
    Player kidvideo's Avatar
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    Ember Rage
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    My main. Just got my novus.
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  4. #24
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    Storm Reaver
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Nexus summoner checking in!
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  5. #25
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    I'm using all skills (I know some are situational), I'm really good at summoner. I think what I meant is how boring it is compared to other jobs. Maybe the issue is that there are too many repeat skills like bio bio II miasma. How many poison skills do we need? I wish the class skills had a more engaging skill system.
    This makes no sense though... You find SMN boring due to repetition yet BLM, MNK, DRG and BRD all have a set of skills they repeat in a set order as part of their rotation with small variations based on procs and cooldowns. Of all the DPS jobs SMN is actually the least repetitive due to it having no fixed rotation; you reapply your dots as they're about to expire and since they all have different timers the reapplications do not fall into a fixed rotation. The reason I enjoy SMN more than the other DPS jobs is specifically because they are much less focused on a rotation and more on skill priorities.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    The only reason I'm amazed anyone plays SMN ever is SCH gets parties inside a min 90% of the time.
    That's only when you're queuing. For more organized raids, summoners bring good damage and high mobility.
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  7. #27
    Player kidvideo's Avatar
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    Ember Rage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    I'm using all skills (I know some are situational), I'm really good at summoner. I think what I meant is how boring it is compared to other jobs. Maybe the issue is that there are too many repeat skills like bio bio II miasma. How many poison skills do we need? I wish the class skills had a more engaging skill system.
    I'm never bored as a Summoner... in fact, there's so much going on it really keeps me alert. Keeping dots up, managing atherflow, using banes & festers, using instas while dodging, & still managing to raise the dragoons & monks.
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  8. #28
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    Korbash's Avatar
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    The Cold Lands of Canada - U'l Dah (could'nt play SMN at lauch, so picked BLM))
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    Korbash Soucolline
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I'm leveling my thaumaturge now then Black Mage, then I will level up arcanist then Summoner. I plan to make them both my main.
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  9. #29
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    Jubilation Everheart
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Summoner/Arcanist is the reason I started and still play. Heck, if I didn't have to grind 30 levels on a class I don't want to play just to have the opportunity to unlock the class, I would probably still be playing XI. I think I managed to tolerate the grind until a level or two after unlocking a secondary class before I had enough.
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  10. #30
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    KaiKatzchen's Avatar
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    Kai Ulric
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    Siren
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Went in ST yesterday, we had a Tank, 2 Healers, MNK, BLM (me) and 3 SMN, I think the class is just fine lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    The worst offense of summoner is how repetitive it is, other classes at least adjust their skills a lot..
    BLM is pretty repetitive... Thunder III > Fire III > Fire fire fire fire fire fire... opps getting low from here you can do like 1 of 3 things, flare transpose, just transpose or swift cast blizzard for the most part depending on situation then back to Thunder III > Fire III > Fire fire fire fire fire fire... opps getting low... lol

    Its very repetitive.
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    Last edited by KaiKatzchen; 10-30-2014 at 05:03 AM.

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