Things that need to change for the better

[MeowyWowie]

Dubont don't mind all the attacks you are getting. People here can't handle someone thinking different than them. Most of those here trying to ridicule you have done the same in my thread. They won't care no matter how many times you explain your point. They do trolling for a living as you've noticed. What do you do with a troll? Don't feed it. Stop replying to trolls, ignore them and only bother with those concerned with discussing the point of your thread.

Some of your concerns are very well founded especially the enmity one. It's a serious issue when combined with the higher MP costs.

That's all great and everything except your missing the main point. He's not just stating his opinion, he is asking SE to nerf the first REAL content this game has received since release.

Seeing how many others are not having the issues he is, his plea is extremely selfish. Destroy the game for others while making it more manageable for him. No thanks. The difficulty is perfectly fine. He needs to learn to form strategies, or at the very least ask for advice.

[Dubont]

That's all great and everything except your missing the main point. He's not just stating his opinion, he is asking SE to nerf the first REAL content this game has received since release.

Seeing how many others are not having the issues he is, his plea is extremely selfish. Destroy the game for others while making it more manageable for him. No thanks. The difficulty is perfectly fine. He needs to learn to form strategies, or at the very least ask for advice.

you are honestly taking my suggestion too personally as if I had just killed your dog. I'm asking for a recalculation to the rate at which the ogre spams his AoE. I'm not asking for anything else on him. As far as the fight overall, once everyone wipes, the mobs should depop so that you can reenter the field effectively, without the possibility of losing members again on the way down. This is by no means me asking for "easy mode" like some people say. If you actually think, instead of just trying to find a reason to yell at me, you will see that what I'm asking is actually pretty reasonable.

[MeowyWowie]

you are honestly taking my suggestion too personally as if I had just killed your dog. I'm asking for a recalculation to the rate at which the ogre spams his AoE. I'm not asking for anything else on him. As far as the fight overall, once everyone wipes, the mobs should depop so that you can reenter the field effectively, without the possibility of losing members again on the way down. This is by no means me asking for "easy mode" like some people say. If you actually think, instead of just trying to find a reason to yell at me, you will see that what I'm asking is actually pretty reasonable.

the r45 dungeon needs a slight nerf.

You specifically asked for a nerf. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the difficulty, there is something wrong with your strategy. How is that so hard to understand?

[Dubont]

You specifically asked for a nerf. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the difficulty, there is something wrong with your strategy. How is that so hard to understand?

how is it hard to read that explained exactly what I meant by "a slight nerf?" Is reading hard? Yes, I asked for a nerf, but I also explained what I meant. "nerfing" doesn't mean bring it's HP down to 500, attack dmg to 10 and defense to 1. No, all I'm asking for is a recalculation of the rate of AoE spam. How many times do I have to repeat this before you actual read and understand it?

[MeowyWowie]

how is it hard to read that explained exactly what I meant by "a slight nerf?" Is reading hard? Yes, I asked for a nerf, but I also explained what I meant. "nerfing" doesn't mean bring it's HP down to 500, attack dmg to 10 and defense to 1. No, all I'm asking for is a recalculation of the rate of AoE spam. How many times do I have to repeat this before you actual read and understand it?

A slight nerf IS a nerf, you can rationalize it any way you want. Never did I say anything about you suggesting what you just said, nor did I say you were asking for easy mode. Stop putting words in my mouth.

The TP spamming is part of the fight, it's largely what makes it difficult. Why destroy the challenge (that many others are thoroughly enjoying) just because you haven't figured out how to beat it yet?

[Dubont]

A slight nerf IS a nerf, you can rationalize it any way you want. Never did I say anything about you suggesting what you just said, nor did I say you were asking for easy mode. Stop putting words in my mouth.

The TP spamming is part of the fight, it's largely what makes it difficult. Why destroy the challenge (that many others are thoroughly enjoying) just because you haven't figured out how to beat it yet?

say what you will, but it needs to be changed, regardless of what elitists what. PW needed a change, AV needed a change, many others needed a change and, despite what the elitists wanted, those things got changed. This will be changed as well.

[Vanguard319]

say what you will, but it needs to be changed, regardless of what elitists what. PW needed a change, AV needed a change, many others needed a change and, despite what the elitists wanted, those things got changed. This will be changed as well.

So now anyone who DARES to protest your childish and selfish demands is now an elitist? The fact remains that you are the MINORITY on this one, the majority of players are enjoying the challenge. The ogre is hardly PW or AV, as a smart party can beat it in about ten minutes, you can't possibly compare it to two NMs that took anywhere from 4 hours to more than a day to beat.

[Kensei]

Remember what I said about trolls Dubont. Don't feed them.

[Kensei]

You specifically asked for a nerf. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the difficulty, there is something wrong with your strategy. How is that so hard to understand?

Friend, let's say you are right. He still won't agree and he doesn't have to. You have made your point that you think he is the one with a problem but in his personal experience that is not the case. He doesn't have to agree. Why do you feel the need that he agrees with you? He has no say in what SE does, they already have their plans laid out for 1.19 and beyond. Let him express his views in peace if he wishes to

[Kensei]

That's all great and everything except your missing the main point. He's not just stating his opinion, he is asking SE to nerf the first REAL content this game has received since release.

So what if he asks for a nerf? SE will do what they think needs to be done, not what some player posts in a forum. He thinks some things need to change and he wants to share those thoughts. No need to get angry about that.

Seeing how many others are not having the issues he is, his plea is extremely selfish. Destroy the game for others while making it more manageable for him.

Again, do you really think SE will do what one person asks for in their personal opinion? Of course not! They will do what they want. It's their game.

No thanks. The difficulty is perfectly fine. He needs to learn to form strategies, or at the very least ask for advice.

Well clearly you don't agree with him and that's fine. However just because you don't agree doesn't mean he needs to learn anything. This a game and different people have different play styles. If you are happy with the current state of the game you then you are very fortunate. Sadly he is not enjoying it as much as you. Nothing wrong with that.