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  1. #21
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    TThibi's Avatar
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    Ohki Doki
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    The admiral is not a gunner she's a pirate, when you think gunner think of the female Garlean General, or more likely Archer after SE reworks it.
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  2. #22
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    lololink's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TThibi View Post
    The admiral is not a gunner she's a pirate, when you think gunner think of the female Garlean General
    Livia isn't a gunner, she is a Pugigunner !
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post


    What type of role do you think Merlwyb would play in a PT? Does she resemble a healer to you? If she were a healer then they would have her healing people on the battlefield in her Anniversary short story.

    Gunner will be DPS. What else will Merlwyb be in a PT?
    There really isn't anything stopping them from having a Gun class that also heals.
    Its not like a SCH bashes peoples heads with the book in order to heal.

    Something like a Chemist Job off a gun toting class would work. Wont need to actually shoot bullets at people, lol.
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  4. #24
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    why cant gunner be dps gambler?
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    I don't think anyone can stop me anymore, except for god"...

  5. #25
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    Bel Rumpelstiltzkin
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    I find it interesting when people say things as if they were a fact when it is all just speculation. Sure OP could be right, but at this point it sounds more like OP wants it to be a dps and is trying to convince her/himself that it is. Personally I still have some hope it is Chemist because there are some interesting albeit not probable speculation around it.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    There really isn't anything stopping them from having a Gun class that also heals.
    Its not like a SCH bashes peoples heads with the book in order to heal.

    Something like a Chemist Job off a gun toting class would work. Wont need to actually shoot bullets at people, lol.
    books aren't meant to be weapons, guns are. weapons are meant to kill stuff. if gunner is healer, then gunner will be weak. if guns are weak, they are pointless. if guns are strong, heals will be weak, and if heals are weak, then you're not a healer...therefor heal-gunner=silly.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by TThibi View Post
    The admiral is not a gunner she's a pirate, when you think gunner think of the female Garlean General, or more likely Archer after SE reworks it.
    The chick was a Monk..as stated, she even use the Monk weapons from XI (though gunified like all other Garlean technology.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltzkin View Post
    I find it interesting when people say things as if they were a fact when it is all just speculation
    It's because ever since 1.0 and even post ARR launch there's quite a lot of data that's easily found to support the 'speculation' as you say and those who've played Square's job based games (including the MMOs) know full well how things tend to be programmed because it's the way they almost always program their battle system with so few people. (and funnily enough, usually the same people too.)

    Let me ask you a question and answer this honestly:

    Do the Goblin Snipers and Marksmen heal when they shoot you? Are they healing you when they shoot you?

    Does the Admiral heal when she shoots people? Did she heal the Sahagin she shot? Has the Death Penalty ever been a gun used to heal people?

    Of course Yoshida cares not for how jobs normally were designed (and sorry haters, designs go back past FFXI) but a gunner that's a healer? It does indeed mean it will be shoddy DPS as it needs to be able to properly heal, meaning most of its skills are heal based rather than damage based.

    It will probably be like how Corsair was a support, but could DPS, and something else entirely would be a healer.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 10-27-2014 at 05:47 PM.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Of course Yoshida cares not for how jobs normally were designed (and sorry haters, designs go back past FFXI) but a gunner that's a healer? It does indeed mean it will be shoddy DPS as it needs to be able to properly heal, meaning most of its skills are heal based rather than damage based.
    Gun as the way of doing DPS (the way you'd expect a WHM to use Stone/Aero or a SCH to stack dots on the mob), potion-related abilities to act as heals. It's not as outlandish as you're making it out to be. The only real question is whether it'll start off with a DPS-focused class and then get a healer job crystal (like my Musketeer => Chemist suggestion) or whether it would be built as a healer from the ground up.

    Here's a picture I found relevant to this concept. Here's another one. And, of course, everyone's favorite.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 10-27-2014 at 06:28 PM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  9. #29
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    Beato Ushiromiya
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    It will most likely be a dps class
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  10. #30
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    Elrica Edoras
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    So... do people keep forgetting about that one artwork image that was leaked recently featuring all the current (including ninja) jobs as well as 2 in the middle? And that the two in the middle are wielding a Rapier and a Greatsword (Dark Knight)?

    It would be foolish to ignore that rapier...
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