The Culling of the Weak

[Rath]

You can desynthesize most il90 and under items with this patch as well, including coil 1 drops. I would assume allagan may potentially give HQ mats for these. You can also desynth the NQ versions of these for HQ mats probably. That doesn't help with field 3s, but those are exceedingly easy now. Either way, some people have only recently finished getting their first supra, so expecting to get all of these in time for the next patch is ridiculous for all but the most die-hard crafters. I would treat this like final coil for crafters, where most are still on second coil and will be by the time the next patch comes around.

[Yumi_umi]

You can desynthesize most il90 and under items with this patch as well, including coil 1 drops. I would assume allagan may potentially give HQ mats for these. You can also desynth the NQ versions of these for HQ mats probably. That doesn't help with field 3s, but those are exceedingly easy now. Either way, some people have only recently finished getting their first supra, so expecting to get all of these in time for the next patch is ridiculous for all but the most die-hard crafters. I would treat this like final coil for crafters, where most are still on second coil and will be by the time the next patch comes around.

I just wish crafting wasn't going to turn into the final binding coil of crafting.
Its so 1337 atm that if you're new to crafting theres really no chance of catching up most likely till expansion.
With materia prices fluctuating, and hardcore sbing no wonder y ppl r like fck it XD

[Nutz]

I just wish crafting wasn't going to turn into the final binding coil of crafting.
Its so 1337 atm that if you're new to crafting theres really no chance of catching up most likely till expansion.
With materia prices fluctuating, and hardcore sbing no wonder y ppl r like fck it XD

It is daunting. I'm still in 2.0 crafting gear (with ALC a level or two below 50). There's just so much grind.

That said, I imagine the crafted artisan stuff can be sold (unless SE expects everyone to not only have all crafts at 50, but all of them fully geared as well), so the new armor will allow you to skip ahead a little bit (though it's going to be REALLY expensive initially I think). I know all the armor says i60, but I'm thinking the HQ artisan's mitts will be definitively better than the Ehcatl smithing gloves once melded.

[Lebenoshl]

From a design philosophy, crafting seems like it is intended to be something you dedicate yourself too. If you want to just make a little gil on the side, mining/bot are more for you. You can sink hundreds of hours into crafting and still have something to do.

I'm really excited about the offhands (assuming the sealant is untradable) because you are time gated from acquiring them all. What it may mean is that you have to pick an choose what crafting class you want to be 4* capable. Saying something like "I'm a Armorer" will mean something other than "I haven't leveled/melded my other jobs up to par".

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

From a design philosophy, crafting seems like it is intended to be something you dedicate yourself too. If you want to just make a little gil on the side, mining/bot are more for you. You can sink hundreds of hours into crafting and still have something to do.

I'm really excited about the offhands (assuming the sealant is untradable) because you are time gated from acquiring them all. What it may mean is that you have to pick an choose what crafting class you want to be 4* capable. Saying something like "I'm a Armorer" will mean something other than "I haven't leveled/melded my other jobs up to par".

Since BSM has most off-hand tools, probably the first pick of any 4 star crafter will be BSM anyway... xD

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Lets call this "The Final Coil of Craftingmut".

[StouterTaru]

I think this will be the exact opposite of culling out the weak. Assuming that you can sell the new artisan pieces on the MB, you could easily buy your way into top tier crafting for less than half the price of a big house.

[Millen1]

You can buy the best gear but without a solid rotation you are toast. The 3 star rotation I use can turn nq mats into hq items about 70% of the time. My stats are craft 410, control 390 and CP 395 with food. The 3 star rotation has luck on the quality side. It appears that the 4 star will have luck on both the quality and progress side. I did give a shot at the 3 star listed for hq. The rotation is grizzly and I did come in decently on quality but having said that you need perfect luck with a lot of 50% and 80% skills. We will see what it looks like in a day with new gear stats. I am hoping that the main item from oak knots can be bought. To recover the gil on selling i110 gear, it would help to get it out the door with in the first 2 weeks. The 2.2 patch was not too hard to get the i90 gear HQ and out the door.

[chidarake]

why would anyone buy crafted 110 gear,??

ok meldable... except material is so cost prohibitive now that nearly no one an be bothered to meld even i90 never mind 110.

plus on top of it st is farmable and sol gear will be easy to get so getting to 110 in any class wont be hard. plus the new gear from poetics will be in all likelihood 110 upgradable to 120.

this just adds up to an awful lot of time for new crafting gear that will be hard to get or easy if you don't mind potentially buying it. although to me I would have to have my own name attached to my crafting gear.

I will look as this new step in crafting and gradually work towards it, probs faster than most but seriously this is looking like a crazy grind and getting all those fieldrafts for supras was bad enough, and although there will be gil to be made I don't think it will be as much as we would probs like unless the new gear is some exceptionally nice looking glam.

[Millen1]

You could be right. i90 crafted did sell ok even though players could get i100 st and i100/i110 soldiery. I never really liked the Soldiery gear as a healer and haven't gone into coil very far. I still have a few nicely melded i90 items around that I switch out as I like. So the new crafted gear interests me. It may interest others and I am looking at keeping the cost down as best as possible. I do hope it is not overly gated with the oak knots or the 4 star crafting will be a waste of time unless it is a hobby on the side.

As for the new gear, my guess is i120 upgraded to i130. Same as the weathered geared went over the last 6 months.

In the end, I will do the 4 star one way or another. It is my challenge as it comes out. Some like ex or coil. I have always been more of a crafter and from time to time find myself doing other.