The Culling of the Weak

[Ooshima]

why would anyone buy crafted 110 gear,??

tell that to hardcore raiders.

[Pacifyer]

Most of hardcore raiders will need to maximize their potential in raids for the first several weeks as you will be heavily gated by poetry weekly cap.
New i110 gear can be melded to become more than BiS for every slot so there is a heavy struggle for crafters to be able to provide those asap from the patch date as later on raiders will most probably get some coil gear + poetry so they won't actually need crafted gear that much. So panic and chaos are guaranteed for the first week for crafters. I bet 4 star items will cost like 2 mils per piece if they are really making it to the MB that fast.

[Ooshima]

Most of hardcore raiders will need to maximize their potential in raids for the first several weeks as you will be heavily gated by poetry weekly cap.
New i110 gear can be melded to become more than BiS for every slot so there is a heavy struggle for crafters to be able to provide those asap from the patch date as later on raiders will most probably get some coil gear + poetry so they won't actually need crafted gear that much. So panic and chaos are guaranteed for the first week for crafters. I bet 4 star items will cost like 2 mils per piece if they are really making it to the MB that fast.

Yeap about that price for non legacy servers. Day 1 prices during 2.2 was around 5-8mil a piece, although volume wasn't huge at all.

[JonBigwood]

It seems to me that they want crafters to choose a specialty craft or a few. In desynth you have to choose, you can't have all at the top. Now with the new gear, master recipes, etc. getting one class, and later some other to the top craft level may be attainable, but all crafters is a huge work and most people won't be able to do it mid term.

It sort of happens with the relic quest too, one class to the top, OK, doable with a lot of time. More classes is too much time, but if you wait some months it gets easier.

I wonder if with the crafters it will happen like with the battle classes that catching up is favoured for new players so that they can catch up, except the last tier that needs a huge grind.
A bit unrelated, crafting seems to be an apart chapter. The best way to make money is crafting, but, except housing (and materia for Novus), money is used mainly for leveling crafters, or obtaining or melding the craft gear which will allow you to gain more gil, that you will use probably in getting better crafting gear, to make more gil, to be able to obtain better crafting gear, in an endless spiral.

You don't need to have had top geared crafters to have earned enough money to have bought a house without much effort in last patch (availabilty is other question), and then gil accumulates unless you spend it on gearing and melding the crafters (desynth, demimateria too.) Note: my main is PLD so I haven't spent a fortune in materia for the Novus weapon, other classes may have such a different situation. But once done the Novus, most gil goes to the crafters, who provide gil to be spent on themselves mainly. A completion goal really.

[rex1976]

That after you get 600ish oaknots you need for the ehcatl thingy to craft the artisan gear in the first place xD!

I honestly don`t know about this, i expected 1 new artisan piece, off hand to be exact, along of new recipees, but this is really a whole new level of work, a completely diferent tier... Is way too much time consumption for content that will get outdated by expansion xD

outside the gloves every oaknot trade item is also available in mordona. i'd be surprised if the ehcatl thingy is not a soldier tome item as well.

[rex1976]

aside from the offhands you're going to have 8 3/4's to meld into the new piece from converting all the 55 fully melded gear. if you need any more it will probably be 1/2's. sell materia now, buy it back after everyone figures it out imo.

[rex1976]

when the game launched there was a first to market race that required the teaming up of crafters/gatherers. it would appear that this patch will also require that, unless the sealant is from soldierly tomes.

[NationOfZealots]

rex1976, please use Edit Post, the button is on the right side of screen left of the Reply button.

When I saw the Ehcatl Sealant hoohah, I just took it the same way Tomes up until now have effectively gated progression, and that is fine, I do not want to participate in a rush anyway.

[Rath]

SCoB was gated by gear, this got bypassed by il90 melded gear early on. The same will happen IF people are able to turn out il110 HQ before people start getting il120 from FCoB and Poetic tomes via hunts. Those ready to buy oaknot items and get their 4 star going right away should make as much gil as those first selling the il90 did, and I made millions myself on it a couple weeks after other crafters had already been selling for 2-10 times as much.

[StouterTaru]

Melded HQ 110 will definitely be better than 120 in most cases, so it will be very valuable for the first couple months.

I'm glad I have ~150 oaknots saved up, 2 characters that can farm up 6 a day each, and 2 more characters a couple weeks away from farming more.