Ninja: Walk in shadow.

[Felessan]

We don't know if Sneak Attack is actually viable, as amazing as it sounds. Hiding Heavies you by 50% (meaning you might have to walk like a snail to get to boss) and it doesn't work on enemies with "special sight," which may mean Trick and Sneak Attack are purely PvP/open-world if that means the attacks won't work on those enemies.

This is where probably a teleport will come to play as it's teleport to area skill and does not connect an attack (unlike monk's one).

[JakzChurchill]

Here's a question I haven't seen asked yet, What will Ninjas LB be?

They're DEX based and so far the DEX LB is just the healer one, will ninja use this aswell?

Will they just be given the STR LB?

Or have they created a new LB we have yet to see?

[Viridiana]

They're DEX based and so far the DEX LB is just the healer one, will ninja use this aswell?

Will they just be given the STR LB?

LB isn't tied to your stats at all. That's why a BRD can use the healer LB to the same effectiveness a healer can. Basically, I expect the NIN LB to be the melee one.

[Eardstapa]

This is where probably a teleport will come to play as it's teleport to area skill and does not connect an attack (unlike monk's one).

The Suiton buff allows the usage of Trick Attack of Sneak Attack for 10 seconds after it is used.

[ShaolinMike]

The Suiton buff allows the usage of Trick Attack of Sneak Attack for 10 seconds after it is used.

So I'm thinking Suiton->Perfect Dodge->Sneak Attack->Shikuchi back to safety. OR Suiton->Perfect Dodge->Shikuchi->Sneak Attack->run back to safety.

[JakzChurchill]

So I'm thinking Suiton->Perfect Dodge->Sneak Attack->Shikuchi back to safety. OR Suiton->Perfect Dodge->Shikuchi->Sneak Attack->run back to safety.

Why sneak attack? Your losing dps getting to the front of the target and losing dps by using that over Trick Attack.

It seems like Trick Attack is for Party and Sneak Attack for Solo. That way your already positioned perfectly for the two and get the most dps available to you.

[ShaolinMike]

Why sneak attack? Your losing dps getting to the front of the target and losing dps by using that over Trick Attack.

It seems like Trick Attack is for Party and Sneak Attack for Solo. That way your already positioned perfectly for the two and get the most dps available to you.

You have your skill names mixed up. Sneak attack is the one that gives 500 potency from front. Trick Attack is 400 from the rear.

[Viridiana]

You have your skill names mixed up. Sneak attack is the one that gives 500 potency from front. Trick Attack is 400 from the rear.

If you can do 1,000 potency over the 10 seconds the debuff is up, TA is still more damage than SA. If you're in a party, it's not even close, because 1,000 potency should take, like, 1 GCD.

EDIT: Also, doing the math, even if you're just spamming Spinning -> Gust -> Aeolian, that's 820 potency from skills and 300 from AA over 10 seconds. 1,120 total potency over 10 seconds (roughly). That means TA will boost this by 112, which brings TA's total potency to 512. Only reason to use SA is if you're solo and the enemy will die before 10 seconds pass.

[JakzChurchill]

You have your skill names mixed up. Sneak attack is the one that gives 500 potency from front. Trick Attack is 400 from the rear.

Errmm no I didn't; In a party you'll straight up do more damage with 400 potency and 10% damage increase for all party members, Infact a good burst rotation a Ninja will do 120 - 130 additional potency on their own. Making Trick Attack 530 and Sneak Attack 500. Now say the other 3 - 4 dps do the same, thats an extra 390 - 520 potency across the party. Not including tank damage and what not. It just out and out eclipses Sneak Attack.

Plus as mentioned your postioned perfectly for each one, in a party you'll be standing at the rear, so your already for TA, the opposite is also true when solo where you'll be set up perfect for SA.


EDIT: Viridiana, Doing some theory crafting in another thread found the optimal burst rotation after trick attack of mutilate --> Kassutsu --> Raiton --> Spinnning Edge --> Shadow Fang --> ?maybe a 5th depending on kraiton time? came at at about 1182 potency with a crit over the 10 seconds not including auto attacks, up to 1345 with a second spinning edge.

Infact If it's definite that you can get 5 abilites with Raiton, you can infact use Aeoilian Combo for a wopping 1529 potency. That's an additional 139 potency for Ninja over 10 seconds not including Auto Attack. Remembering also that Kraiton will be a crit hit aswell.

The other rotation viable finsher rotation for below 20% is

Mutilate : 360 [396] - 2s -> Spinning Edge : 150 [165] - 4s -> Gust Slash : 200 [220] - 6s -> Aeoilian Edge : 320 [352] - 8s - Assasinate : 200 [220] - 9s -

1353 Potency, 123 additional potency.

But thats if you want to be sure you don't mess up your Ninjutsu and wanna a clear 1350 potency. (also only works if they will live long enough for Mutilate to run out)

Disclaimer: This is only theory and needs to be tested, it could and most likely is wrong at this point in time.

[ShaolinMike]

Errmm no I didn't; In a party you'll straight up do more damage with 400 potency and 10% damage increase for all party members, Infact a good burst rotation a Ninja will do 120 - 130 additional potency on their own. Making Trick Attack 530 and Sneak Attack 500. Now say the other 3 - 4 dps do the same, thats an extra 390 - 520 potency across the party. Not including tank damage and what not. It just out and out eclipses Sneak Attack.

Plus as mentioned your postioned perfectly for each one, in a party you'll be standing at the rear, so your already for TA, the opposite is also true when solo where you'll be set up perfect for SA.

According to patch notes, Sneak attack does 500 base potency from front. In terms of base potency, sneak attack is stronger than trick attack. If positioning is your argument, you can Shikuchi into position immediately after the attack.

What damage buff does Trick Attack get that Sneak Attack doesn't?