[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Exstal]

Why did SE give the Summoner three Egis with more on the way if they only intended for the Summoner to only use Garuda. If that was the case SE should just rename the Summoner Garuda Master and give us the Garuda EX Primal as a Pet and call it a day.
Anyways it doesn't matter because from looking at the patch notes Ninja with it's elemental DoTs will replace the Summoner in most Raid Parties.

Again, you have not even the slightest idea of what SE intended.　If you're going to continue to perpetuate this lie, don't expect devs to even consider anything you say (not that they would anyway given your track record).

[Akiza]

Again, you have not even the slightest idea of what SE intended.　If you're going to continue to perpetuate this lie, don't expect devs to even consider anything you say (not that they would anyway given your track record).

I still doubt that SE intended Summoners to use Garuda as their default Pet they can build the entire Summoner class around Garuda and rename it a Garuda Master and call it a day.

[Delily]

During expansions mmorpg's change how classes work take WoW Warlock where its was originally a DoT Caster with a Pet but when they added Demonology it became Pet Based Class while still retaining it's DoTs. Most Pet Pet Classes have a huge level of interaction between the Master and Pet and tier level pets as well.

Did you ever play WoW? At all? Warlocks have always had 3 specs, and while each spec has been refined, all three have pretty much has the same. I'd also like to know which pets classes you've played, because for the most part, the summoner operates the same as every other pet caster class I've played.

[Kaonis]

Did you ever play WoW? At all? Warlocks have always had 3 specs, and while each spec has been refined, all three have pretty much has the same. I'd also like to know which pets classes you've played, because for the most part, the summoner operates the same as every other pet caster class I've played.

Your point? Those games aren't this one. The devs have even stated themselves that SMN using Garuda only is not intended, and that they were working on some re-balance to Ifrit to make it just as viable.

[Delily]

Your point? Those games aren't this one. The devs have even stated themselves that SMN using Garuda only is not intended, and that they were working on some re-balance to Ifrit to make it just as viable.

I had a response similar to your's (about buffing ifrit) but the forum preventing me from posting it. My comments about WoW were to point out that Akiza is wrong about warlocks. Demonology never turned you into a pet focused class, all it did was make you tougher and improve some base skills.

[Miya_Carbuncle]

I actually love that it's a DoT class and it's why I decided to start playing it again. But with that said, the summoner pets desperately need to be re-worked. I really wanted to play a summoner when the game was in beta, and then I saw how the summons looked and almost immediately changed my mind. Now I'm only playing it for the DoTs, carbuncle (I'll miss him at 30 ), and the books we use for weapons.

Hopefully one day the summons will look like actual summons instead of tiny elementals... ^^ Maybe even as a level 60 perk? I can always dream, can't I?

[Akiza]

Summoner's pets definitely need to be re balanced if they are going to add Leviathan, Rumah and Shiva Egis otherwise Garuda Egi will dominate them. The Egis should have Hard Mode Primal abilities and look like the Primals at Highlander Hyur Scale.

[Einheri]

Add a Primal Panel. Have Summon 1(Single Target) 2(Tank) 3(AOE).

You get to pick the look of your primal ala the Companion UI to change their Armor.

So you want you summon 1 to be Shivah change it in the appearance options.

This way they can add all the egis they want and people can decide what looks they want and all they have to do is balance 3 the roles.

They can even add a skill load out. Here are 10 tank skills pick 4 ect. Now you can tune your pet to you and your play style.

Give a UI option for the owner of the EGI to scale their size up for them on their screen only.

Now you can choose your primal abilities for the fight. The look you like. Tactically swap roles for fight mechanics. And not bother any one else with your giant primal.

WIN WIN WIN WIN for every one

Sell Primal Skins in the Store Muahahahahahahaha! (evil laugh)

Now go complain that DRK doesn't "feel" like FF11 DRK and let this thread die already.

Y'all have seen the necro thread that got resurrected after a year that complains Dragoons don't "feel" like LoLDragoons cause they don't have a pet or breath spells and jumps are lame and don't make a DRG right?

[Exstal]

Summoner's pets definitely need to be re balanced if they are going to add Leviathan, Rumah and Shiva Egis otherwise Garuda Egi will dominate them.

I agree with this portion of the post.　The rest is nonsense.

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Y'all have seen the necro thread that got resurrected after a year that complains Dragoons don't "feel" like LoLDragoons cause they don't have a pet or breath spells and jumps are lame and don't make a DRG right?

The guy who made the thread needed to be thrown into the looney bin though.　Especially since it was OP who revived it.

[Akiza]

I agree with this portion of the post.　The rest is nonsense.



The guy who made the thread needed to be thrown into the looney bin though.　Especially since it was OP who revived it.

Actually the rest of the post is to make the Egi look like in actual summon with more primal abilities. The Egis already have NM Primal abilities already so adding Hard Mode Primal abilities and making them resemble the Primals at Hyur Highlander scale in 3.0 is entirely probable since the form and abilities of the Egi is linked to the Summoner Job stone.