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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    let's use number, will you... we know that we are more of 2.000.000 subscriber (more close of 2.5M) and that the minimal sub is 12.99 dollars per month, meaning for 2M sub they earn at least 25.980.000 dollars per month for a total of 311.176.000 per years (if the subs stay around this) seriously...
    You should probably consider expenses and liabilities into that equation. I know a doctor who makes about 750k a year between all of his assets, and is routinely thousands of dollars in the negative. Just because you bring in a lot of revenue doesn't mean you get to keep most of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    You should probably consider expenses and liabilities into that equation. I know a doctor who makes about 750k a year between all of his assets, and is routinely thousands of dollars in the negative. Just because you bring in a lot of revenue doesn't mean you get to keep most of it.
    Then he should take a course in accounting, bookkeeping or something like that.
    Furthermore, it's probably related to using expensive medication and the latest technology to treat diseases. It's worth it.

    Here, we're talking about a game company. Sure, the servers and stuff cost a lot of money, but with that amount, FFXIV:ARR is covered.
    I'm paying for FFXIV:ARR, not the other games I don't play. They should put their stupid cash shop in those other games eating their revenues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    You should probably consider expenses and liabilities into that equation. I know a doctor who makes about 750k a year between all of his assets, and is routinely thousands of dollars in the negative. Just because you bring in a lot of revenue doesn't mean you get to keep most of it.
    i highly doubt the game cost them more of 20.000.000 a month or they have really need to check where the money go. anyway, we know the game did save the company, meaning the profit is far more important than the developpement, the cost of the server and the maintenance.

    i can understand that they want to make other game and such, but i did read stuff that have disturb me a lot about game like FF15, the director did admit that the console gaming in japan is dying and that FF15 is one of the game of the last chance for the console gaming in japan. (ok it maybe too strong and self centered i doubt only one game can save the console gaming in japan and we don't talk of handheld console, but console like ps4/xbox one and such) but i will be extremely upset to learn that a lot of the money made by FF14:ARR was used for FF15. when we know that the game definitivly need improvement in some area quite critical, like the latency of the european/oceanic player... or simply the capacity of the server too small for the game and his developement.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 10-23-2014 at 10:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    You should probably consider expenses and liabilities into that equation. I know a doctor who makes about 750k a year between all of his assets, and is routinely thousands of dollars in the negative. Just because you bring in a lot of revenue doesn't mean you get to keep most of it.
    If Final Fantasy XIV is still operating at a loss after the release of ARR they need to really fire some accounting staff. This game lacks where most don't in so many departments with the same old server limitations excuse dragged out every time,, just a few examples, we still lack proper European servers, other games are miraculously able to give every character a house, rather than a small handful, uou have to pay monthly for additional storage space, other games have them as a one-off cost, and those games, don't even have subscription costs (GW2/Path of Exile, on GW2 it's cheaper to buy extra storage one off than the monthly cost on FFXIV....), the game even had a 300ms delay because of server limitations which they eventually changed to 100ms... in instances, this 300ms delay in combination with European servers in Canada was the cause of 1000s or not 10000s of EU players frustrations which took months to get fixed.

    Except I wouldn't be surprised if it is running a lot a loss despite all the claims of the game being highly successful and selling more than they ever imagined. Even with Yoshida saying before he prefers subscriptions as it provides stability for planning how much content they make. Square Enix has a history of saying games which have sold well have been failures (Sleeping Dogs, Hitman Absolution and Tomb Raider), and haven't met targets, they obviously have budgeting problems somewhere. I wonder if it's the same with FFXIV, despite all the talk of it being a success and surpassing targets.

    edit: Massively multiplayer online role playing games such as “FINAL FANTASY XIV” and “DRAGON QUEST X,” have been making favorable progress.

    From Financial Report from this year. http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ne...q1earnings.pdf

    Sounds like Profit to me.
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    Last edited by SongJoohee; 10-23-2014 at 02:33 PM.

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    I have for some time really wondered if ARR is actually operating at a loss. Now lets go back to the official info Yoshi posted, he announced that as of Nov 2013 that the game has 600k subscribers, jan/feb 2014 the game has 500k subscribers, than all of a sudden Yoshi stopped releaseing how many subscriptions the game has. A little over 1 year after launch they announce a cash shop. So the million dollar question would be how well is ARR doing? All I know is every game that has offered a cash shop pretty much has failed and gone F2P so is this what is happening to ARR? If the game is loseing subscriptions than maybe they need to provide better content, instead of providing a cash shop to milk players.
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