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  1. #411
    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Many people from both sides argue their points very nicely and in a friendly way, but the ones that loose their temper and jump to insults the quickest tend to be from the non raiding camp. That's just my personal observation anyway.
    Exhibit A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    FFS stop already. Do you see how air-headed you look right now?
    And people call the raiders vitriolic or toxic.
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  2. #412
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah View Post
    ... There will be always people who can do certain things and people who cannot. It's life.... you cannot change years of gameplay just because you cannot...
    FYI, this is a game, not real life. And although true that there will always be differences in ability, skill, knowledge and etc., SE know full well that it can change, gameplay, gear level, and any other things and it will within its rights to do so. And it is smart both for the game and community to make older content more accessible so newer player, and newbies can be at the starting line for newer content sooner. You may well believe "you cannot change years of gameplay", but SE is showing you the changes.

    In the bigger picture, they are really not changing all that much. They are replacing SCOB with FCOB, so it really is the more things change the more they stay the same. And if people that want to patiently wait 6 months to get to the last patch content with lowered difficulty, what is so wrong with that? All that we see is contempt and hatred newer players of newbies, which you like to label as "bad" or "lazy" which couldn't be further from the truth. Players starting on this game tomorrow, a week from now, or a months/year from now should have reasonable path to the latest content (FCOB in this case), and get to do T5, T9 as side quests.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 10-23-2014 at 01:25 AM.

  3. #413
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    FYI, this is a game, not real life. And although true that there will always be differences in ability, skill, knowledge and etc., SE know full well that it can change, gameplay, gear level, and any other things and it will within its rights to do so. And it is smart both for the game and community to make older content more accessible so newer player, and newbies can be at the starting line for newer content sooner. You may well believe "you cannot change years of gameplay", but SE is showing you the changes.
    You obviously didn't read my previous messages about it, better to check it. :P
    Square-Enix wont change hardcore contents. If a story mode will happen in the future, be sure you will not get hard/extreme mode drops and of course, end game progress. If you watch a cut-scene or no, it doesn't matter to me till end game rewards and progress will remain available only by clearing raids with a specific difficulty (high+).

    It's useless talking about that, it's logic: you can only blame to watch cut-scenes through youtube and not with your own resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah View Post
    It's useless talking about that, it's logic: you can only blame to watch cut-scenes through youtube and not with your own resolution.
    If we learn anything from savage that Yoshi-P wanted to provide a harder challenge is not many people seem willing to do it without rewards also in place so much for I do it for the challege part. Same probably goes for the story mode when release people will do it, but for the most part will likely be going to the regular coils that will have echo and the mildly adjustment mechanics, like we currently have for the first coil to get those rewards. The youtube excuse is simple really to answer for people they don't want to watch others acheivements they would rather experience for themselves really if that upsets you sorry.
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  5. #415
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    If we learn anything from savage that Yoshi-P wanted to provide a harder challenge is not many people seem willing to do it without rewards also in place so much for I do it for the challege part. Same probably goes for the story mode when release people will do it, but for the most part will likely be going to the regular coils that will have echo and the mildly adjustment mechanics, like we currently have for the first coil to get those rewards. The youtube excuse is simple reallyto answer for people they don't want to watch others acheivements they would rather experience for themselves really if that upsets you sorry.
    I already answered at that:
    Quote Originally Posted by Chero Kuri
    In the truth, thinking about it, I also do not mind too much if they put an easy version of last Coil content if there will be no achievements, no titles and no drops for the story mode.
    It will be just useless to do it but if people are curious about cut scenes they can watch them with their own resolution instead of youtube them, at least. In that case end game will stay Coil (or new raid name) Hard mode and Extreme (Savage) for people who want more (but need something better than a title, btw).
    Peace. :P
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  6. #416
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumijj_Gah View Post
    I already answered at that:
    Huh?! Nobody is asking you any questions and parroting someone else's post does not make it any more valid. Currently what SE has done now for existing T5, and EX primals works well enough and their own data shows it. They will do the same for SCOB, when they roll out its replacement. This is their game plan/road map that they've made very clear from the beginning. This what the player base wants and expects. There is nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auron_Wolf View Post
    brain diarrhea
    I weep for your lack of shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auron_Wolf View Post
    cringeworthy long post.
    What the hell did I just read?
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    Auron_Wolf. It doesn't seem like you really read the thread at all and instead decided to use stereotypes in the form of memes. The way you purposefully desparage and diminish people's effort and time investment as wasteful and pointless is insulting to others. What they value is non of your concern and coming here and insulting it doesn't make your argument more correct or valid. While I'm at it you're the only person here who brought up "virtual status" or anything like it.

    This would be Exhibit B for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Auron_Wolf. It doesn't seem like you really read the thread at all and instead decided to use stereotypes in the form of memes. The way you purposefully desparage and diminish people's effort and time investment as wasteful and pointless is insulting to others. What they value is non of your concern and coming here and insulting it doesn't make your argument more correct or valid. While I'm at it you're the only person here who brought up "virtual status" or anything like it.

    This would be Exhibit B for me.
    i delete the reply, going to post that in other thread and didn't notice i have other windows open and post it in the wrong place, sorry just ignore it.

    menuda metida de pata :/
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