Cash shop confirmed

[Razzle]

So you expect the rewards to be available even if you have never done the event?

Yes, if that what was happening until now, we had a vendor that sells older event items with gil. So yes, it only make sense to expect that...

[Farah]

Vanity items are a large part of the game for me, so it is annoying to see items that we could previously earn just by playing the game added now to a cash shop. It makes me worried that they will just keep adding vanity items to the shop instead of making them available in the game.

I came from a F2P game, so I'm not unfamiliar with the cash shop. It starts out vanity, then it slowly adds buffs, then adds end game armor. I don't think FFXIV would go that far (atleast I hope not). In other games, you could purchase the items off other players for in game coin. It would be a ridiculous amount of in game coin, but at least it made items available to people who didn't want to purchase it with rl money. I feel ffxiv wont do that either however, since they seem to make most items like that not tradable.

[Mjollnir]

WISDOM BEYOND HIS YEARS

Nael on the head with the proverbial Sleipnir or something.

1) Functionality like server transfer, retainers, fantasia. Fine.
2) Old event items that you've missed and were previously 1 gil. Seems a shame.
3) New items that you cannot obtain elsewhere. Not fine.

What would be worse is if I shelled out $10 for three minions and they became available in-game at a later date.

For some reason it would sit easier with me if the Sleipnir Mount was exclusive to a $50 Ltd. Ed. FFXIV PlayArts figure of Odin.

Either way I'd buy them up because I'm an unprincipled sucker.

[Magis]

To those saying "well you already have a cash shop with IRL merchandise"... No.

It's like saying a Happy Meal that comes with a toy is the same as buying a toy. Like McDonalds selling a meal and then adding a toy as an incentive for kids to want it, Square adds these in game items as an incentive and a thank you to get the IRL merchandise. Sure there are some people who buy Happy Meals for the sole purpose of getting some collectible toy, but that doesn't change what McDonalds is marketing and selling, likewise with Square. In fact, if the minion had anything to do with what they were trying to sell, then they wouldn't put a expiry date on the codes (half a year iirc?) since obviously people are buying it for the minion only.

So please, pointing at bonus items for being an early adopter to tangible merchandise is nothing like an in-game virtual shop.

[RinchanNau]

I really don't mind it at all. As long as there is not a pay to win system in place it's fine. Some mounts and minions? Whatever. I purchased an irl friend a WoW mount for their birthday a few years back. Really not that big a bother.

[Teryaani]

Merchandise is not game content, I don't understand why you would even compare the two. I sub to play the game, not to get posters.

This is one the things I'm not getting from most folks that hate the cash shop. You're okay buying a book or CD that has an in game minion attached, or paying for an extra account for the draught chocobo, or paying for a premium subscription for the fat chocobo, but you get angry when we want to buy things like that directly. Somehow that latter thing is a cash grab but the former isn't? It's the same thing!

Hardly.

Dev Post correcting prices of cash shop items: 18 likes
My post asking for the removal of cash shop: 171 likes

Post from Shadray showing reason and civil behavior and asking for patience: 1 like
Post from Ladon telling the users to bully people who use the cash shop: 7 liikes

as you put it SongJoohee

I know it's not much to go on but that alone tells all you need to know.

That doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure they're listening to the feedback of those that don't say anything >.>

The suggestion feature in game provides them with another source of feedback, as does external electronic communications (tweets and emails).

[Ghastly]

They're just going to put the best/most attractive cosmetics (costumes, hair, and etc.) in the shop as time goes by. They're not going to put things we don't want to buy there. Normally these things would've been in-game...

[LiveVoltage]

I love how much flaming and trolling is all going on here.

Here is the issue with cash shops. Say if Jhony Joe has been grinding Titan EX for the rare mount that has a really low drop rate. He spends weeks or even months trying to get it and it finally drop's. Then 2.4/.5 comes out and a cash shop is added to the game and suddenly Sally Sue can get the exact same item that Jhony Joe got in less then fifteen minutes or so.

Cash shops depreciate the value of hard won items of the players who have worked so hard for what they have that it's not funny. If this was an F2P or Pay to win game and they had cash shops that gave you this then this is perfectly acceptable, but cash shops in a Pay to Play game that give vanity gear and mounts that players had to previously work terribly hard for is not okay. It is an insult to the players who put their time into getting the item, especially if they spent weeks or months working for it.

[Teryaani]

Cash shops depreciate the value of hard won items of the players who have worked so hard for what they have that it's not funny. If this was an F2P or Pay to win game and they had cash shops that gave you this then this is perfectly acceptable, but cash shops in a Pay to Play game that give vanity gear and mounts that players had to previously work terribly hard for is not okay. It is an insult to the players who put their time into getting the item, especially if they spent weeks or months working for it.

This applies to cash shops that offer current in game items. If, and in all fairness it is an 'if', SE keeps the promise of this being only vanity content (minions, mounts, and mogs) that is not available in game, then this isn't really an issue. If they start offering in-game and/or P2W stuff, I'll be right there with those complaining about this.

[Teirshin]

This is one the things I'm not getting from most folks that hate the cash shop. You're okay buying a book or CD that has an in game minion attached,

If I buy a CD or an Art Book that comes with a minion, I've still got a tangible item in my hands that has worth and can be resold if I so choose. Its mine to keep even if I stop playing the game. So in that case, the minion in game is a "bonus" with really no value.

Buying a minion on the other hand, is tied to the game. I cant hold it or resell it. It has no cash value, though it may have sentimental value.

Companies have gotten VERY good at selling virtual items that have no real worth. Emotionally it may mean something, but for that $5 or $20, you have nothing tangible to show for it other than pixels on a screen, which are tied to a game you're already paying for every month.

You cant get something for nothing... but you sure can buy an awful lot of nothing for something if you keep listening to companies who sell digital items. They're banking on it. This generation puts more money into paying for virtual items than they do putting away for retirement.... and its going to come back to haunt them one day.