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  1. #31
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    Ayerc Atreides
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    you still need a thm for debuffs and to sleep mobs and dots.
    Unless you ranked THM and CON. Then you play CON with THM DoTs so you can still use Curaga and Chainspell Rebirth. Or at least, I do.
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    Dear S-E,
    Your s#!% has improved, but it's not quite there yet...you might want to see to that.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGMart View Post
    ... Um what? You don't need thms at all. Conjurers can do it all like I have been this whole time since patch.
    Less potent. beside curaga is only used if eye/mole hits you and you are not gonna use it at all during bosses.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerc View Post
    Unless you ranked THM and CON. Then you play CON with THM DoTs so you can still use Curaga and Chainspell Rebirth. Or at least, I do.
    I have both at 50 and THM is way more potent in terms of dots , i still prefer to have at least 1 THM in a group
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  3. #33
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    Jor El
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    People kill moles in the r50 raid?!!! wink wink* Use THMs affinity on conjurer with plenty of piety and you're good. But if you use THM more power to you!
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Less potent. beside curaga is only used if eye/mole hits you and you are not gonna use it at all during bosses.




    I have both at 50 and THM is way more potent in terms of dots , i still prefer to have at least 1 THM in a group
    You may have 1 THM in your group, plus multiple conj because theyre more important now.
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    SE's design has still not properly evolved with the times - in that encounters are not designed well enough to counter one-sided parties. Sure you can argue that melee can stun and move and "help heal" (REALLY?), but you also damn well know that most people will simply take the path of least resistance (or most faceroll) and subsequently steamroll their way to glory.

    The designs are just bad if they can't account for something like this.
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  6. #36
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    F'lor Quebrada
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    A necro just to rage?

    Please, mature a little...
    Thank you so very much for making me laugh. Clearly I need it. For the record, if I mature toooo much more I'll be dead. I'm not the "usual" player. When you mature a little more you'll be less worried about appearances and just say what you feel in the moment too. It's very freeing actually.

    Best wishes to everyone and happy gaming. My apologies to anyone offended by my "rage". I see it more as well-founded outrage, but I've been dealing with this kind of thing for a long time. I'm sure everyone will adjust or leave. I'm just disappointed that I'll no longer be able to play with the autonomy I need and so greatly enjoyed. They really had something special going for a while there. Take care.
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    Things are not always what they seem. When in doubt, ask.

    "Horror is the coming undone of something good."
    ~Stephen King~

  7. #37
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    Balancing is so obviously hard for SE. that "you're allowed one thm" comment cracked me up, why even waste the spot right, get three conj. /joke
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solfleur View Post
    Thank you so very much for making me laugh. Clearly I need it. For the record, if I mature toooo much more I'll be dead. I'm not the "usual" player. When you mature a little more you'll be less worried about appearances and just say what you feel in the moment too. It's very freeing actually.

    Best wishes to everyone and happy gaming. My apologies to anyone offended by my "rage". I see it more as well-founded outrage, but I've been dealing with this kind of thing for a long time. I'm sure everyone will adjust or leave. I'm just disappointed that I'll no longer be able to play with the autonomy I need and so greatly enjoyed. They really had something special going for a while there. Take care.
    Sorry, I don't see how searching out a 3 month old thread to rage without paragraphs = mature. Of course, I also told you how I felt, without a block of rage.

    This is neither here nor there, though, and I do agree the MP nerfs (or buffs? Not sure, depends on the viewpoint I guess) were harsh and are shoe-horning CON into a healing role.

    EDIT: Of course, at least if you play a healer CON you can almost always get a party for a dungeon, and THM isn't too bad at healing as long as there's not a ton of AoE (so not in dungeons/NMs).
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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