Cash shop confirmed

[Yshnal]

Tl;dr version:

Against: "No P2P MMO should have a Cash Shop, I mean, look at all of the MMOs that milk players with game breaking items. I forgot to mention these are F2P and Pay to Win MMORPGs and never has happened in a P2P MMO before."

For: "Eh, doesn't bother me I just won't use it as I can still play the game just fine."

Neutral/Don't Care: "Let's wait and see what happens."

Against: "WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THEY WILL SELL GAME BREAKING ITEMS! THEY WILL TAKE CONTENT OUT OF THE GAME TO RESELL IT TO YOU! HOW ARE YOU OK WITH THIS?"

Rinse and Repeat for 99 pages.

Nice try, but what we're saying is the following:

1) Before the introduction of the cash shop you could buy past years' event items for a small gil fee. Now you have to pay real cash, just because.

2) As the dev. team doesn't have unlimited time, it means that part of the time that would otherwise go to develop things for everyone to enjoy will go now to the cash shop.

3) We're more than sure that they'll throw the cool looking designs to the cash shop, and the normal/ugly ones will be the ones that we'll get for "free". You don't have to be very smart to see that, as they want to be able to SELL them, not having them sitting there with no sales.

4) We already had this discussion when the extra retainers were introduced, with people saying "it won't get worse, you're paranoid", "it's just retainers, they won't put a cash shop", and "I'm sure that ventures will be hard to get", among other excuses. History is repeating again, and some people keep their blindfolds no matter what.

5) We're already paying a sub, and the game is very successful. SE doesn't need the money and, coupled with 1), it's a slap in the face of all of their customers. In other words, this not very customer friendly, and we're in our right to voice our concerns (and even stop paying if we so want).

6) Just because it's vanity that doesn't mean that it doesn't matter. Everyone plays (or has been playing for over 4 years) the game for a reason, and they're in their right to enjoy it doing whatever they want to do. Just because you only care about raids that doesn't mean that other people shouldn't enjoy collecting vanity items (see housing, for instance). Getting some of it out of their reach all of a sudden is a cheap move on SE's part.

7) Minions attached to physical items don't fall under a cash shop category, even if they're almost crossing the line. After all, what you're supposed to be buying is the physical thing, and the minion is a gift. Not to mention that physical items can't be produced as fast as digital ones, so this doesn't have the same screwing potential as a cash shop does.

8) Expansions are NOT the same thing as this. The price of it VS it's value regarding content, systems, etc. is more fair that paying 2-5€ for a single digital item.

9) If we wanted to have a cash shop we could be playing another MMO, even those P2P ones that already had one. Maybe we were here partly because it didn't have that "feature"?

Now you can put words in our mouths again, or mock us, please.