Cash shop confirmed

[RaspberryRipple]

I like you.



Let me open with this: Square Enix is a public company. Their whole financial records are online for anyone who has the internet and 5 minutes of times. Go see how well their past business model was for them then come talk about greed.

The business model since 2.0 has been a big success without a cash shop. If you don't believe me then go read the financial records which I know you know are publicly available.

[IveraIvalice]

Aww, okay, where is the point i missed?

I'm not gonna rewrite the same thing 8 times. Just read and don't simplify/summarize/reduce us to 5 year olds

Maybe learn to understand and not just close yourself up and huddle up in a corner.

Lol your telling me that? Did you even read the post I commented on? If you think that's understanding more then I do then maybe you should reread some things.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

This is incredible.

People is against having mounts added to the game AND the cash shop. No. Or everything is earned after 3 months of losing time or everything has to be payed cause is totally ok to pay for something you already paid.

I swear. This is the reason why Electronic Arts is still a thing. And this industry doesnt care about its customers.

[Amaret]

I'm not gonna rewrite the same thing 8 times. Just read and don't simplify/summarize/reduce us to 5 year olds.

So it seems like i understand the quintessence of the problem, i just summarized it as you guys are 5 year old? Should i write an essay about it?

[mekia]

This is incredible.

People is against having mounts added to the game AND the cash shop. No. Or everything is earned after 3 months of losing time or everything has to be payed cause is totally ok to pay for something you already paid.

I swear. This is the reason why Electronic Arts is still a thing. And this industry doesnt care about its customers.

wtf are you saying xD

[mekia]

So it seems like i understand the quintessence of the problem, i just summarized it as you guys are 5 year old? Should i write an essay about it?

God damn you! have to agree again >.>.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

wtf are you saying xD

For the last 4 pages, in a nutshell, this:

Point in case. Slepnir mount.

Right now:
Cash shop item exclusive, price to determine. Not in game content tho we are paying for it, behind a paywall.

How should be:
Slepnir Mount is added as a reward to X content.
3 months later, it becomes a cash shop alternative.

So content is designed and build for the game, not the cash shop.

So... Whats the problem with having items added to the game and then to the cash shop? thus adding items for everyone, creating a cash shop which will sell items and not forcing a paywall?

[tocsin]

So... Whats the problem with having items added to the game and then to the cash shop? thus adding items for everyone, creating a cash shop which will sell items and not forcing a paywall?

There is zero issue with this. Its the best of both worlds, and SE SHOULD implement it that way. They wont, because they never seem to get things perfectly, but they SHOULD.

im on your side here. I'm only defending the concept of a cash shop.

In other news, 4 pages? wow, I set my page settings for max posts per page, those default pages add up a lot faster than I expected! how many pages are we up to? max settings is approaching 24.

[IveraIvalice]

So it seems like i understand the quintessence of the problem, i just summarized it as you guys are 5 year old? Should i write an essay about it?

Everything you mentioned has been debated about and is not as you mention it. Repeating what I've said before. Buying a CD and getting a minion as a bonus with it is not the same thing as buying a mount or minion in a game. Your buying a physical object and you get a bonus in game item.
And some are concerned about what this will lead to in the future but most are not concerned about anything other then what it is right now. Not "oh no! it may or may not become pay to win and then it will become an issue". It's an issue right now because of many reasons that have been said multiple times.
We pay a monthly subscription for a game with all of it's content. Obviously that's not the same thing as claiming the devs lives are ours

[mekia]

For the last 4 pages, in a nutshell, this:



So... Whats the problem with having items added to the game and then to the cash shop? thus adding items for everyone, creating a cash shop which will sell items and not forcing a paywall?

And still all i hear is "I don't have money to spend on something cool QQ". You give no reason whatsoever why it is such a company destroying idea (which you guys make it out to be). Just leave it seriously, people will buy it because they like the mount/heads/whatever and because some just want to support the game in more ways than normal. If you don't understand that than it is not our problem. Just stop trying to start something which you can't follow up with comments that make any sense at all.
And EA is still in business because they publish good game. Don't like what they do? Guess what..... don't buy it :O! OMG!