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  1. #771
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Your right, it's not the fans fault, but can you really blame them to try to gain back what they lost? I am not for the cash shop mind you, but I do understand the leaps and bounds SE had to do to get FFXIV ARR here. They did a miraculous thing with FFXIV ARR ( at the cost of alot of money). TBH it's only natural this kind of thing would happen. I just hope after getting some of the money back, that they will stop the cash shop eventually.
    They will never remove the cash shop, that's not how making money works. As for what they spent on ARR, a very wise person once told me : "Never invest more money into something than you are willing, and able to lose." I would hope that anyone running a business would understand something that simple. Even so, it is again, not our responsibility to pay for their mistakes nor the costs of rectifying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    They will never remove the cash shop, that's not how making money works. As for what they spent on ARR, a very wise person once told me : "Never invest more money into something than you are willing, and able to lose." I would hope that anyone running a business would understand something that simple. Even so, it is again, not our responsibility to pay for their mistake, nor the costs of rectifying them.
    Then simply don't buy anything at the cash shop, that's all there's to it. That way you don't have to pay for their mistake .
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  3. #773
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Then simply don't buy anything at the cash shop, that's all there's to it. That way you don't have to pay for their mistake .
    I fully intend on it, the problems will arise when (not if, when) they start adding items that you're forced to purchase in order to fully "experience" the game. And make no mistake it will happen, because SE will make money off the cash shop and they will want to make more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    I fully intend on it, the problems will arise when (not if, when) they start adding items that you're forced to purchase in order to fully "experience" the game. And make no mistake it will happen, because SE will make money off the cash shop and they will want to make more.
    At that point in time, that is when I will stop supporting this game. If they are truly listening to feedback, then they would do well to tread lightly on this cash shop in a p2p format.
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    Why all this hyper moaning about Vanity crap for sale that you dont even NEED?????? It boggles the Miiiiiiiiiiiiind!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    I fully intend on it, the problems will arise when (not if, when) they start adding items that you're forced to purchase in order to fully "experience" the game. And make no mistake it will happen, because SE will make money off the cash shop and they will want to make more.
    there are plenty of cash shops that don't and never will do this so it is a *if* not when.
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  7. #777
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    At that point in time, that is when I will stop supporting this game. If they are truly listening to feedback, then they would do well to tread lightly on this cash shop in a p2p format.
    Every other game and developer that has a cash shop eventually moves into that territory. I can't see how SE wouldn't when their whole approach to ARR has to to emulate other MMOs.

    Still, I hope your optimism is well placed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    there are plenty of cash shops that don't and never will do this so it is a *if* not when.
    Name one.
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 10-21-2014 at 08:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Name one.
    dota 2, LoL, WoW. 3 for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    dota 2, LoL, WoW. 3 for you
    WoW doesn't have items in the cash shop that impact gameplay? Well, WoW players will be surprised to hear that those were just figments of their imagination!
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    That's a damn shame.

    If they put all the vanity on it and focus on making actual gameplay with my subscription money then I'm all for it. The sad part is they wont do this, they will continue to use my subscription fee to fund this endeavor, and we will still only see a few dungeons and the same lockouts pushed out a month.
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