SE is missing a HUGE opportunity with this cash shop!

[Yumi_umi]

Honestly i don't get y everyone is so blah about this.
Its a cash shop for vanity stuff.
If it starts including progression boost stuff then so be it.
The only thing that would be pushing it would be
If you paid like 50$ to get an insta clear of coil ( minus the loot )
But if this game does turn into a F2P / pay to win game, then obvs you can just put the game down and move on. No point of getting pissed as you already experienced the game pre F2P/ P2W so its all good.

[Sholah]

Honestly i don't get y everyone is so blah about this.
Its a cash shop for vanity stuff.
If it starts including progression boost stuff then so be it.
The only thing that would be pushing it would be
If you paid like 50$ to get an insta clear of coil ( minus the loot )
But if this game does turn into a F2P / pay to win game, then obvs you can just put the game down and move on. No point of getting pissed as you already experienced the game pre F2P/ P2W so its all good.

Because those vanity items and minions and mounts COULD HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME AS NORMAL REWARDS.
FOR FREE.
FOR PLAYING THE GAME AND PAYING OUR SUBSCRIPTION.
BUT INSTEAD THEY'RE WITHHOLDING CONTENT AND SELLING IT TO YOU FOR REAL MONEY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THAT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF US ARE UPSET NOW?

[Miya_Carbuncle]

Because those vanity items and minions and mounts COULD HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME AS NORMAL REWARDS.
FOR FREE.
FOR PLAYING THE GAME AND PAYING OUR SUBSCRIPTION.
BUT INSTEAD THEY'RE WITHHOLDING CONTENT AND SELLING IT TO YOU FOR REAL MONEY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THAT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF US ARE UPSET NOW?

Lol! Holy crap you are seriously overreacting about some vanity items. Also, not all minions have been free since the start.

Honestly, a few minions that you have to buy, which will be sold alongside other things things (like the mog plushe comes with the minion) is such a petty thing to be freaking out about.

[kyuven]

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF US ARE UPSET NOW?

Would you complain if there were exclusive minions for people who paid for certain things like the collector's edition?
Because it's the exact same thing. People pay more, they get more.

It's a fallacy to believe that if the cash shop didn't exist, this stuff would be given away for free. Rather, the logic SHOULD be: if it weren't for a cash shop, these items wouldn't be available at all. It DOES cost money to implement things, you know. Every single thing has to be tested before it goes out the door to make sure the cactuar earrings don't change your entire head into a cactuar when you put them on.
The cash shop means we'll be getting MORE cosmetic items, not less. Since each and every item's financial loss can be regained by selling it, it means more revenue for the company. Moreover, every single MMO out there and even the vast, VAST majority of single player games these days does exactly this.

[MomomiMomi]

It's a fallacy to believe that if the cash shop didn't exist, this stuff would be given away for free. Rather, the logic SHOULD be: if it weren't for a cash shop, these items wouldn't be available at all.

You're a fool if you believe this.

[kyuven]

You're a fool if you believe this.

I may be foolish, but I invite you to prove me wrong.

[MomomiMomi]

I may be foolish, but I invite you to prove me wrong.

See: halloween event.

[Sholah]

Rather, the logic SHOULD be: if it weren't for a cash shop, these items wouldn't be available at all.

You really believe this, don't you?
What about the items that -were- available in-game and are now taken out to be sold on the cash shop? Until this Halloween event, you've been able to buy past seasonal items at the vendors. Now they're gone because they know they can get away with selling them for real money. The cash shop is not some saving grace that's going to give us more content, and I really feel sorry for anyone with low enough intelligence to believe that. It's only going to gate more and more content behind real life money, when it should have been in the game that we pay for with our subscription.
And yes, I do think it's wrong to do a pseudo cash shop with the soundtrack and art book minions. It's the same thing, but at least it's on a much lower scale than this.

[kyuven]

You really believe this, don't you?

I actually had an addendum about the seasonal items, but the character limit...
The thing about the seasonal item is a mixed bag. We've had to two different ways:
1) Seasonal items available ONLY during the event and at no other time, but they're "free"
2) Available ALL the time for everyone, but you gotta pay.

Option 1 got a lot of complaints and still gets complaints (look at the complaints about the TGS 2013 earrings becoming unavailable, as well as all the people sad that they missed the huge number of anniversary events) so it becomes natural to go to option 2.
Now personally I disagree with the precise way they implemented it...the items should still be free DURING the event but should also be for sale all year round. They might actually do this because people are complaining so much (i think the other thread about cash shops is at 75 pages) but I still LIKE the idea of items in the cash shop.

[Xairos]

I actually had an addendum about the seasonal items, but the character limit...
The thing about the seasonal item is a mixed bag. We've had to two different ways:
1) Seasonal items available ONLY during the event and at no other time, but they're "free"
2) Available ALL the time for everyone, but you gotta pay.

Option 1 got a lot of complaints and still gets complaints (look at the complaints about the TGS 2013 earrings becoming unavailable, as well as all the people sad that they missed the huge number of anniversary events) so it becomes natural to go to option 2.
Now personally I disagree with the precise way they implemented it...the items should still be free DURING the event but should also be for sale all year round. They might actually do this because people are complaining so much (i think the other thread about cash shops is at 75 pages) but I still LIKE the idea of items in the cash shop.

Exactly. I would rather have the option to get event items anytime i want. even if i have to pay a little to get it for convenience. I mean try to look at the full application here. not just the worst case "they are selling coil gear" scenario.