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    To me this kinda explains why they only give a couple hairstyles every patch..
    I can see them putting a bunch of hairstyles and what not up on the cash shop -_-

    Sucks too if the cash shop goes in the direction I think its going I might just only have to sub when new storyline comes out,
    not about to get sucked into buying cool looking hairstyles when I could spend my money on other things irl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
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    I have yet to stop speaking in absolutes.

    I do presume you're not a shareholder.

    I do presume you're a socialist-minded individual who, while we're speaking of backpedaling, dear sir, conceded very nicely that SE need not answer penny-for-penny to your request.

    The fact that you are here posting indicates that you actually have no better grounds for inquiry, because if you did, you'd be using that as a weapon, rather than throwing out this shameless bravado.

    You have no right to ask this of Square Enix. That is the long and short of it.

    The presumption continues; your turn, mon ami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    Did I say anything about that? I quoted you in my post to see exactly what I was responding to (and how you're wrong). And I do know what a publicly traded company is, and square enix is such a business.

    Let's not confuse the topic versus what I was discussing, and that is how blatantly wrong some of the things you're posting are.

    Also, we may not be investors, or we may. The fact is, we're stakeholders, and everyone that has a stake in SE (or any business, really) should feel free to look at those details (if they're inclined).
    You're a stakeholder because you're a player?!?!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    As for "blatantly wrong", well. Business philosophy is as varied as the number of sands on the planet.

    Your position is wrong, but yeah. You're entitled to be incorrect. Opinions are like noses o.o everyone has one.

    I'll keep slugging along quite happily with mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    what the blue heck are you doing demanding a report ON A GAME FORUM?!


    ...you believe that anyone who makes a dime on anything, be it an airplane or a glass of lemonade, must answer, no, must stand trial for that dime.
    You have some work to do learning the English language.

    Asking and demanding mean different things.

    To the second quotation point, more presumption lol... keep telling me what I believe, because you're so good at gleaning it.

    "I do presume you're a socialist-minded individual who... ...conceded very nicely that SE need not answer penny-for-penny to your request."

    I never said they need answer penny-for-penny to my request, did I?

    More stuffing words down my mouth.

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    Last edited by Parz3val; 10-21-2014 at 05:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    You're a stakeholder because you're a player?!?!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    As for "blatantly wrong", well. Business philosophy is as varied as the number of sands on the planet.

    Your position is wrong, but yeah. You're entitled to be incorrect. Opinions are like noses o.o everyone has one.

    I'll keep slugging along quite happily with mine.
    Customers are stakeholders...wow, you're really bad at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    You have some work to do learning the English language.

    Asking and demanding mean different things.

    To the second quotation point, more presumption LOL.
    Therefore you concede you have no right to this information, and the battle is won. <o.o Thanks for the laughs.

    Presumption served me well. Thank you, Presumption!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    Customers are stakeholders...wow, you're really bad at this.

    *stares, slack-jawed*

    This... is not even worthy of retort. This grants you the right to this information? No, and no. Also, no.

    Many thanks for the amusement, good luck with your request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    You're a stakeholder because you're a player?!?!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    DEFINITION of 'Stakeholder'

    "A party that has an interest in an enterprise or project. The primary stakeholders in a typical corporation are its investors, employees, customers and suppliers. However, modern theory goes beyond this conventional notion to embrace additional stakeholders such as the community, government and trade associations."

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    Therefore you concede you have no right to this information, and the battle is won. <o.o Thanks for the laughs.
    I never argued whether I personally had the right to such information.

    Where are you getting this from? Quote it.

    I *asked* for it... please tell me you know the difference between 'asking for something' and 'demanding it'.
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 10-21-2014 at 05:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    *stares, slack-jawed*

    This... is not even worthy of retort. This grants you the right to this information? No, and no. Also, no.

    Many thanks for the amusement, good luck with your request.
    I uh, think you just added a lot of weight to my original reply.

    I still don't know what you're referring to as information at this point, as you've changed it quite often in this thread. If we're talking about what you originally posted, which I was, then yes, I can see their profits for any given quarter. I don't have to ask for it, it's on their site.

    Gosh, don't you have a business to be running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    DEFINITION of 'Stakeholder'

    "A party that has an interest in an enterprise or project. The primary stakeholders in a typical corporation are its investors, employees, customers and suppliers. However, modern theory goes beyond this conventional notion to embrace additional stakeholders such as the community, government and trade associations."
    *still laughing*

    Modern theory also puts forth that a business exists to provide a service, and your typical intellectual economist a la Krugman believes that profit ought to be something outlawed.

    It's thinking like this that makes watching the economic decline of the West so damned amusing.

    But what do I care!

    You conceded my point

    you won't get your information

    so everyone's happy!

    Let's all go out for pizza and laugh like hyenas!
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