Actually reading the Japanese forums he responded to more than just jumping. If there's "more pressing matters" post about it - If it's in regards to content well we know they're busy with the battle system currently.
Jumping needs to be added, there should be no reason that it's not added. It's a great feature, and it will only benefit the game, and make everyone feel more free, and lively!
Like I've said before: It's something I really couldn't be less concerned about. As long as I can navigate the scenery, I don't mind if you add jump or don't.
All he said was he's taking everything into consideration. Goodness, some of you people take everything far to seriously and far and away out of context. Let's look at what Yoshi-P ACTUALLY said. He mentioned the original plan was to make it like an E-mote, and that they were also planning to adjust collision detection, and that we should separate our views of collision detection (IE Invisible walls) from jumping. Meaning, no matter how you slice it, you were never going to see the functional jumping how you wanted it. It would have been minorly functional for fence hopping, but was otherwise a simple e-mote.
Also, at last look, I believe the reason the forums were added was because the produces wanted to know exactly what we thought so they could get a feel for what we wanted. So because you didn't get your way due to some other people voicing their own concerns is no reason to throw a tantrum.
Now, let's look at the feel for a lot of the posts. Most people aren't against jumping, they're only against the annoying issue that was 10 year olds in WoW hopping everywhere. If it's an E-Mote there's not a lot you can really do about that. At the same time, you're probably gonna see it added in some form or another. But the E-mote form is probably the one that's gonna end up. Which is what Yoshi-P originally planned.
Frothing at the mouth over it is really rather sad.
I cant tell if people want a jump feature to overcome certain obstacles or having a (imo usless) ability to jump just because other mmo's have it or not.
I agree that jumping in WoW was to jump over fences, jump around like crazy in PvP / Battlgrounds, get ontop of objects was convenient to get around (this last part could cause major problems in a game that was'nt intended to have the "Jump" feature in in the first place), hell even the mounts in WoW jumped when it was moving (rawar / yelled when it wasnt) but that was just one of those tiny useless but cool things i guess.
But in a game such as this Final Fantasy & with the current landscape....well it dosent really fit it.
Just imagine going to pick up leves,... and all of a sudden... some huge Roegadyn sitting on the god damn Leve-counter blocking the npc & totally messing up the natural order of things.
lol sure i like jumping ontop of things, explore new ways to get around, but thats how people are, we just cant get enough of finding new things to do, or even ways to bug / annoy other players.
Now... here's lil something i didnt need jump for:
http://static.ffxiah.com/images/ffxi...9TmpqINtL9.png
However... jump would probably been faster way to get up on the table.
But no...im very persistant, i used the barrels behind that table & forced my way up there.
Jump should serve a purpose beyong annoying others, trying to get outside the boundries of the game.
I'd suggest skip "Jump", add "slide" down the steep hill instead.
I'd also suggest that SE instead of completly remodelling the landscapes is to make specific areas that can be climbed more visual, add some rock formations, darker gravel paths, anything to show the player... here!, here you can climb the hill easier.
People remember the maps after awhile & also remembers exactly where you can / cannot climb up or down.
Last edited by Laughlyn; 03-12-2011 at 09:39 AM. Reason: sucky typos
I used to be Noomy...then i took shiva's Hail Storm to my knee...
JUMP !! We need it ! you need it ! even the haters need it (they just wont admit it)!
Put in an Auction House first though please !
I can't believe THIS is our most replied thread.
Out of everything we have to discuss, the addition or not of jumping is one of the least important >_>
I cant tell if people want a jump feature to overcome certain obstacles or having a (imo usless) ability to jump just because other mmo's have it or not.
I agree that jumping in WoW was to jump over fences, jump around like crazy in PvP / Battlgrounds, get ontop of objects was convenient to get around (this last part could cause major problems in a game that was'nt intended to have the "Jump" feature in in the first place), hell even the mounts in WoW jumped when it was moving (rawar / yelled when it wasnt) but that was just one of those tiny useless but cool things i guess.
But in a game such as this Final Fantasy & with the current landscape....well it dosent really fit it.
Just imagine going to pick up leves,... and all of a sudden... some huge Roegadyn sitting on the god damn Leve-counter blocking the npc & totally messing up the natural order of things.
lol sure i like jumping ontop of things, explore new ways to get around, but thats how people are, we just cant get enough of finding new things to do, or even ways to bug / annoy other players.
Now... here's lil something i didnt need jump for:
http://static.ffxiah.com/images/ffxi...9TmpqINtL9.png
However... jump would probably been faster way to get up on the table.
But no...im very persistant, i used the barrels behind that table & forced my way up there.
Jump should serve a purpose beyong annoying others, trying to get outside the boundries of the game.
I'd suggest skip "Jump", add "slide" down the steep hill instead.
I'd also suggest that SE instead of completly remodelling the landscapes is to make specific areas that can be climbed more visual, add some rock formations, darker gravel paths, anything to show the player... here!, here you can climb the hill easier.
People remember the maps after awhile & also remembers exactly where you can / cannot climb up or down.
Laughlyn - i disagree with all your points, because it seems unnatural for our characters to NOT be able to jump a little.
And why so defensive? You say jump will just make people annoy you - but not all people are bad - and if they wanted to annoy you they don't need jump lots of annoying things characters can do.
The truth is in 21st century Final Fantasy, a character should be able to jump, it seems to RUIN immersion for me that he cant jump. My character feels like a puppet welded to rails on the floor at the moment I need freedom to move (I promise i wont jump on the guildleve counter to annoy you !)![]()
You know, I can actually understand the frustration in this post, because I'm feeling it, too. FFXI, for better or worse, was released almost a decade ago in a market with few choices or other standards to compare itself to. And I'm tired of the argument that we don't need things in FFXIV just because FFXI didn't have it.I am actually shocked, people against jumping... you do realize your petty thoughts have now changed the ideas of the developers, because in your little bubble you didn't want jumping in this game. For every reason against it, I simply can't understand why they even bothered to type their grudges against it.
Edit: Might as well go all out, you realize that this game is not doing so well because it tried something very different( which i salute to and respect) but certain things must be implemented so that the average gamer will feel at home or can adjust to FFXIV. So for all the dedicated FF fans myself including should shut up and let some changes be made that are not to our taste and lets try get this game rolling.
It may seem like a small thing, but many of the bad reviews and feelings of an outdated clunky game didn't just cite the UI or the combat system. How was it you had this beautiful character with such amazing facial expressions and emotions, and even the way you run and shift your weight when you come to a stop is SO lifelike... but you can't even jump?
I'm loathe to use the term fanboys, but the FF traditionalists who are claiming that new features will only somehow destroy the integrity of this game are only serving to hold back progress and keep FFXIV from being taken seriously by the gaming community.
This game will surely wither away if it doesn't move into the next MMO generation, and that generation expects a full array of controls, including the ability to jump. Evolve or die.
Last edited by Rowyne; 03-12-2011 at 09:51 AM.
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