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  1. #61
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    Vanity stuff counts as content, now?
    Yes, "vanity stuff" -- mounts, weapon/armor skins, minions, etc. -- is and has always been content. Are you telling me you have never had any desire, or spent any time/effort, to get any non-mandatory items in the game because you thought they looked cool? Why would the game have this "glamour" system to change gear appearances, if it isn't content? Why can we change hair styles? Why don't we all just look the same? After all, it clearly doesn't matter, right? Only stats and numbers and being able to chart our DPS is real "content."

    You yourself seem to be wearing a Slime King hat in your player avatar pic. Well, from now on you can expect all the Slime King hats to be cut out of the game you already bought and paid a subscription for. From now on, they will be blocked behind an extra cost.
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  2. #62
    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Velvet Velour
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    But wouldn't a TRUE collector dig deep into their pockets for all the things if they really wanted them badly?
    For real tangible items that exist in the real world? Yeah, that's acceptable. For virtual items that literally do nothing for me in real life and have no value to them outside of the game? No, that's completely unacceptable.
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  3. #63
    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Velvet Velour
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    If you don't like it, quit. But good luck finding another MMO that doesn't do this.
    I don't need to play an MMO.
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  4. #64
    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Faye Saotome
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    As a collector, every item is necessary. Part of my fun is collecting as many items in game as I can.

    It's hilarious that you think I'm the greedy one here, and not the S-E double dipping on top of their subscription fee and game/expansion/character service sales.
    Oh, so not only are you greedy but you also have an addiction. No, luxury items are not necessary no matter how much of a collector you are. Do you understand how MMOs, or video games in general, work? You never own video games when you buy them, what you own is a license to play them. MMOs you have to keep renewing that license, the sub fee, but that does not mean you have access to everything Square makes for that game.
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  5. #65
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    DutchRyker's Avatar
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    Kravan Havoc
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Why are players crying about this?? This is the way all MMOs are going no matter if they are F2P or P2P its just the way it is. WoW is P2P and it has its cash shop with mounts and pets etc.. Archeage is F2P or P2P and it has a cash shop and now FFXIV is doing it. GET OVER IT! its the direction MMOs are going. So to cry about it or not cry about it that's the question lol
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  6. #66
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    Xairos's Avatar
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    Xairos Karalis
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    For all you doomsayers, has any present day content been cut out of the game and put behind a pay wall in the shop? like the holiday items? Anything so sinister?
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  7. #67
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    For real tangible items that exist in the real world? Yeah, that's acceptable. For virtual items that literally do nothing for me in real life and have no value to them outside of the game? No, that's completely unacceptable.
    Throw in the fact that we've already paid for these with our subscription fee.
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  8. #68
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Well, if you don't like it, " Let your wallet do the talking". Words mean nothing without action. It personally doesn't bother me, but if you are hurt by this decision, just don't buy it, I am sure they will get the message.
    I know some will make fun of this, but in a capitalistic-ish system - this is the best tool. If you sincerely hate it, do not spend your money on it. "But its just a cash shop don't be baby" - said a tool to the system.. lol

    Good consumers do not buy what they do not like. I did not leave WoW right away because of the shop (and it wasn't my main reason), but the shop does have a negative weight on my outlook for this game. They're smart to release expansion news first, I'm still riding the hype train... XD

    +1'd btw lol

    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    i remember a thread couples months back that there was people complain about square charging extra for retainers, which had no impact on the game whats so ever and neither will this.
    Retainers actually have an effect in game, income and space.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-20-2014 at 07:42 AM.

  9. #69
    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    Sky Lionheart
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 51
    Wow some people are looking way too into this... it's entirely OPTIONAL, buying OPTIONAL VANITY ITEMS is a choice that's completely UP TO THE PLAYER! You're not FORCED to purchase anything! Let alone anything that will affect progression!

    Don't like it? DON'T BUY IT! It's so damn simple!
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  10. #70
    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Faye Saotome
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Throw in the fact that we've already paid for these with our subscription fee.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    You never own video games when you buy them, what you own is a license to play them. MMOs you have to keep renewing that license, the sub fee, but that does not mean you have access to everything Square makes for that game.
    Read this.
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