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    Quote Originally Posted by Alegis View Post
    We already pay an monthly fee and FFXIV seems to be an success for SE already, why do they act like they cant get enough now?

    Even vanity gear is part of the experience, we already pay for...
    Apparently those 2.5 million accounts created weren't cutting it, maybe they'll actually disclose real subscriber numbers now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    They canceled their subs over a cash shop that only has vanity items? That's really pathetic.
    This just in, voting with your wallet is apparently pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Apparently those 2.5 million accounts created weren't cutting it, maybe they'll actually disclose real subscriber numbers now.



    This just in, voting with your wallet is apparently pathetic.
    Voting for your wallet by NOT buying the Optional stuff? Yes
    Voting with your wallet by NOT paying your sub? What exactly does this prove?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Voting for your wallet by NOT buying the Optional stuff? Yes
    Voting with your wallet by NOT paying your sub? What exactly does this prove?
    That you don't like the direction a game is heading and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    That you don't like the direction a game is heading and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    Yeah, but you're tying in the Optional "Vanity stuff" as some of the direction of the game. It's not even close to the direction of the game. P2W stuff would be, but not Optional Vanity stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, but you're tying in the Optional "Vanity stuff" as some of the direction of the game. It's not even close to the direction of the game. P2W stuff would be, but not Optional Vanity stuff.
    Optional items for a game are still part of the game, having those items only be available from a cash shop is a very conscious decision about the direction of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Optional items for a game are still part of the game, having those items only be available from a cash shop is a very conscious decision about the direction of the game.
    That they really emphasized that they are NOT going toward P2W at all with this feature.

    Stopping your subs will only raise questions to Yoshi-p as to why did a lot of people leave the game for? They will have a hard time figuring it out. If you just don't buy the optional stuff they will see plainly that people don't want that stuff.

    Anyways, Voice your concerns it's very healthy to do so. However, I do not agree that stopping your sub or anyones sub will solve the "Optional" dilemma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, but you're tying in the Optional "Vanity stuff" as some of the direction of the game. It's not even close to the direction of the game. P2W stuff would be, but not Optional Vanity stuff.
    All content is optional. Is it okay just because it's vanity then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Apparently those 2.5 million accounts created weren't cutting it, maybe they'll actually disclose real subscriber numbers now.



    This just in, voting with your wallet is apparently pathetic.
    Not buying anything from the cash shop is voting with your wallet. Not playing the game entirely is on an extreme level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    Not buying anything from the cash shop is voting with your wallet. Not playing the game entirely is on an extreme level.
    This just in, not paying for a game you don't like is extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    This just in, not paying for a game you don't like is extreme.
    Okay. Just sit there with your arms crossed and just pout about it. I'm done with you.
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