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    AzakaTonnerre's Avatar
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    Azaka Tonnerre
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiwayari View Post
    So I just ran Halatali HM, and noticed after a while that the Blackmage's rotation was wrong, so I tried to be helpful
    and give some advice.

    Giving some advice is one thing but when he tells you "but thank you for the advice" and you reply by saying "Then you should choose another job"... well what part of that sentence was giving advice or being constructive? As others have said, I can understand where he was coming from after, cause that line comes across as condescending and rude.

    If you can't look at that and see why he/she may have felt that way I don't know what else to tell you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiwayari View Post
    I realize I didn't choose the best words, but I also noticed in the long run, whenever you try to make a quick point about something, it sounds rude for some. Basically what I noticed is the longer the text, the less offended people get by it. But the longer I take to write, the more annoyed people are with me just standing around. It's quite a predicament and I always find myself wondering what is the best.
    In this game I have seen many people attempt to help others in dungeons and such and rarely does that help include telling someone to choose another job. It took you 5 seconds to type that and would have taken you exactly 1 more seconds to read it and realize its implications. The whole conversation could have taken a different tone if you had just done that.

    If your quick points always "sound rude to some" maybe you should look at yourself and your delivery. Because while I have seen a few get upset or offended when someone tries to offer help, more often that not, they don't.
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    Last edited by AzakaTonnerre; 10-19-2014 at 11:55 PM.

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    Shiwayari's Avatar
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    Shimiya Yuuya
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AzakaTonnerre View Post
    Giving some advice is one thing but when he tells you "but thank you for the advice" and you reply by saying "Then you should choose another job"... well what part of that sentence was giving advice or being constructive? As others have said, I can understand where he was coming from after, cause that line comes across as condescending and rude.

    If you can't look at that and see why he/she may have felt that way I don't know what else to tell you.
    I see that the problem was with that phrase, I agree that sounded rude.
    He said 'thank you, but no'. So I stopped giving him advice about BLM.

    However, I tried to bring the point across that playing with that attidude is not very welcome in a game where you work together with other people, hence "You should choose another job". I do not think that argument was wrong, it was worded in a bad way, which came across as rude. I wouldn't take that comment and be very pleased either. But this is all about how one intreprets how the language is meant to sound.

    I'm also not the perfect player and have had others give me advice, some lines which I also intrepreted as "rude". Beyond that, I even had somehow swear and leash out at me for being stupid and ignorant and doing my job completely wrong. And no, I did not feel the need to "leash back" at him. I tried to explain why I did so and what points I agreed I wasn't doing right and what I think I was doing right.

    If the best someone can come up with is *Insult* *quickly leaves instance* leaving the other person behind with the worst kind of feeling just to feel satisfied, that person either hopefully had a bad day, or should not be playing a game like this.


    If the BLM in question is reading this, I'm sorry for choosing this wording, I was not trying to be rude, I hope you at least understand the point I wanted to make. And please, next time try being a bit more civil about it.
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