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    HakuroDK's Avatar
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    Kinnison Cooke
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    Nonono, you guys have it all wrong.

    Clearly, Batman is confirmed. You guys are reading too much into it.
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    Arete Sophoi
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Nonono, you guys have it all wrong.

    Clearly, Batman is confirmed. You guys are reading too much into it.
    clearly the next race is bat people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Nonono, you guys have it all wrong.

    Clearly, Batman is confirmed. You guys are reading too much into it.
    Calling it now...the Dark Knight job quest guy will be named Bruce Wayne...or something close to it.

    On a serious note,

    I wonder what this means about the supposed Samurai leak as well. For those that don't know what I'm talking about, look it up on reddit.
    Could DK actually be a DPS job? Or are they actually gonna add more than 3 jobs? Or is Samurai gonna be DPS(lolwut)?

    Nah, DK healer, totally.

    For those doubting the confirmation of DK, it should be noted that the MC and the stream hosts were saying that Yoshi-P just said something he probably shouldn't have, and has just dropped a bomb on everyone. So...there's that.

    Quote Originally Posted by IzumiYuki View Post
    Why would a Japanese dev name those set of folders in English when almost everything else there is in Japanese? Sounds like it's done on purpose and not by accident.
    I don't know if you know this...but...Samurai in Japanese...is Samurai. Shocking isn't it?!
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    Last edited by Danbo05; 10-19-2014 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    I wonder what this means about the supposed Samurai leak as well. For those that don't know what I'm talking about, look it up on reddit.
    Could DK actually be a DPS job? Or are they actually gonna add more than 3 jobs? Or is Samurai gonna be DPS(lolwut)?
    The thing to remember is that new jobs may require new classes, so SAM might well be a class and DRK a job. Unless they want to make DRK use axes or break their own design and make it a single-handed weapon user this time around, they'd have to add a new class for it. SAM is a two-handed sword user, DRK weapon of choice tended to be two-handed swords, just saying...


    The folder leak was staged. that's bloody obvious. No way would they let random people at an expo spot it unless it was deliberate. that would be locked up tight otherwise and Soken would be in lots of trouble.
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    Last edited by Stumpedify; 10-19-2014 at 02:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpedify View Post
    The thing to remember is that new jobs may require new classes, so SAM might well be a class and DRK a job. Unless they want to make DRK use axes or break their own design and make it a single-handed weapon user this time around, they'd have to add a new class for it. SAM is a two-handed weapon user, just saying...
    This is true, however...seeing a Dark Knight use bushido techniques would be....awkward to say the least. Not saying it hasn't been done before (Bravely Default and FFV), but seeing Samurai lead up to Dark Knight in general, would be...weird. I think the best option for Samurai is Fencer class, as that would also lead to many other options for future jobs. But that's my opinion, and probably something that won't happen. But who knows. Maybe come expansion they'll finally add the option of splitting attribute bonuses for jobs, that way Scholars and Summoners can finally be maximized in potency, and that could also apply for DK, if it does wind up branching from the Gladiator class. Just wishful thinking, oh wells.

    I also found it interesting that they "bleeped" out the whole "Knights of the Round Table" thing. I wonder what was the purpose of that? Hmmm...
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    Tyren Arkon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpedify View Post
    The thing to remember is that new jobs may require new classes, so SAM might well be a class and DRK a job. Unless they want to make DRK use axes or break their own design and make it a single-handed weapon user this time around, they'd have to add a new class for it. SAM is a two-handed sword user, DRK weapon of choice tended to be two-handed swords, just saying...


    The folder leak was staged. that's bloody obvious. No way would they let random people at an expo spot it unless it was deliberate. that would be locked up tight otherwise and Soken would be in lots of trouble.
    They already have one handed and two handed versions of Conjurer and Thaumaturge Arms. I feel like they could apply this to other classes without it feeling too awkward. Two handed swords, one handed "javelin" style spears, one handed axes (maybe even dual wielded ala Rogue).

    I just want Dancer as a Job... ; ;
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by thenewzero View Post
    They already have one handed and two handed versions of Conjurer and Thaumaturge Arms. I feel like they could apply this to other classes without it feeling too awkward. Two handed swords, one handed "javelin" style spears, one handed axes (maybe even dual wielded ala Rogue).
    The big reason that they can do one-handed and two-handed Conjurer and Thaumaturge weapons is because the spell animations stay the same no matter what the character is holding. Paladins use the exact same casting animations as Conjurers and White Mages. Two handed swords, one-handed spears, and one handed axes would require completely new animations for most non-crossclassable attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    The big reason that they can do one-handed and two-handed Conjurer and Thaumaturge weapons is because the spell animations stay the same no matter what the character is holding. Paladins use the exact same casting animations as Conjurers and White Mages. Two handed swords, one-handed spears, and one handed axes would require completely new animations for most non-crossclassable attacks.
    True, but creating a whole new Class would require *significantly* more animations, not to mention development time, compared to just adding new animations for two handed versions of one handed weapons.

    Although this all could be a moot point depending on what changes they make to the basic class system.
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    Last edited by thenewzero; 10-19-2014 at 04:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    The big reason that they can do one-handed and two-handed Conjurer and Thaumaturge weapons is because the spell animations stay the same no matter what the character is holding.
    Well.... no. They don't. As a Lalafell Black Mage, I cast attacks by swinging the weapon under my left arm and flinging it outwards. As a White Mage, I cast attacks similarly to how I cast cures, except pushing my staff towards the foe at the end. So, they do indeed have unique casting animations depending on the type of spell.

    There's no reason why any weapons added wouldn't have their own unique animations either, or even unique casting animations for Dark Knight spells.

    Personally, I have a hunch that Dark Knight will branch off Marauder (It makes the most sense) and be able to wield great axes, as well as have a few unique greatswords for levels 30+. No reason they couldn't change to a job-specific weapon type for DRK once you've unlocked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Well.... no. They don't. As a Lalafell Black Mage, I cast attacks by swinging the weapon under my left arm and flinging it outwards. As a White Mage, I cast attacks similarly to how I cast cures, except pushing my staff towards the foe at the end. So, they do indeed have unique casting animations depending on the type of spell.

    There's no reason why any weapons added wouldn't have their own unique animations either, or even unique casting animations for Dark Knight spells.
    I meant "cast a spell wielding a wand and shield and then cast the same spell while wielding a staff and the animations match to the spell." Casting Protect for example will follow the same animation no matter which class casts it or what they are currently wielding.

    Personally, I have a hunch that Dark Knight will branch off Marauder (It makes the most sense) and be able to wield great axes, as well as have a few unique greatswords for levels 30+. No reason they couldn't change to a job-specific weapon type for DRK once you've unlocked it.
    Depends on how you define "makes the most sense."
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 10-19-2014 at 04:43 PM.

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