SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Cichy]

Nobody is anti social dumbass. It's just not funny shout for party for 1 hour when you have one hour to play.

Exactly, I've tried for half an hour and not one person responded.

[Abriael]

Its good to see someone else is playing the same game as me but apparently Abriael is not and lives in denial. He claims he got 45k from leves post update lolz all in one night when everyone was d/cing because of server problems.

Sorry if you went to bed too early, but the disconnection problems lasted no further than the first couple hours, after then everything was good to go on my side.

The only one in denial is you. There's a lot of people here that back what I say and have the same experience. Someone that's not in denial would assume that he's simply doing it wrong.

[Noir]

Love when envious people accuse those that simply have more free time of unlegit conduct.

If you were offended, guess that it explain a lot. Yeah, learn some math. Unless you play 24/7 and have people providing mats shards 24/7 and you click 60.000 times each class to get to lvl 50. You can't get to lvl 50 in all classes in less than a year without some form of cheat. And I forgot kill 30.000 mobs for each class. Yeah, your free time doesn't add up my friend. We americans are lazy, if you were Chinese and living in a LAN I would believe you, just maybe.

[Abriael]

If you were offended, guess that it explain a lot. Yeah, learn some math. Unless you play 24/7 and have people providing mats shards 24/7 and you click 60.000 times each class to get to lvl 50. You can't get to lvl 50 in all classes in less than a year without some form of cheat. And I forgot kill 30.000 mobs for each class. Yeah, your free time doesn't add up my friend. We americans are lazy, if you were Chinese and living in a LAN I would believe you, just maybe.

Personally, I have only two 50s, and i've been here since day one of the early access. But I don't go around assuming other people cheat just because they have more free time than me. You know envy is a very bad thing, and there's a lot of envy drooling from this thread.

[Noir]

i don't have a 50.. I rerolled a week before patch.. I am at 18 i'm completely fine with the speed of progression.. I wish there were no official forums.. the only people that post on them are the kids who are whining.. the people enjoying the content aren't posting.. they're in game having fun.. there is nothing but negativity here, but it really speaks for such a very small portion of the community.. its the same 3-5 kids crying non-stop.. luxlux, neptune, etc.

You are right. We were enjoying pre patch and not complaining. You guys are us pre patch. The roles reversed. We are complaining because we can't do anything meaningful solo/duo anymore while all the clans can farm the same nm , dungeons each hour. Clap, clap. 0 posts pre patch. 30 and counting pos..

[Preypacer]

You're right. It didn't give the same sp/hour behest did. It gave more. Way more.

Again, you're not even halfway through the leveling curve, you completely lack the tools to judge.

Repeating like a mantra that behest were the best way to level doesn't make it true.

You've explained it to him, with numbers. Others have explained it to him, with numbers. Still others have explained it to him, with common sense. Multiple times, across multiple pages. Notice how he's not responded to nor even acknowledged a single one of any of those posts? It's not getting through. His mind is shut.

Kensei's not getting it because Kensei doesn't want to get it. He wants to continue living on in his personal little world where everything is exactly how he sees it.

Following on your theme of the situation in pictures... This one sums up Kensei's behavior perfectly.

Either that or, again, he's flat out trolling at this point.

[Calevr]

I'm going to give the devs a chance to finish their ideas and see how it looks after summer. I had in mind this patch was for us to test out the new combat system which so far i like.

[Noir]

Personally, I have only two 50s, and i've been here since day one of the early access. But I don't go around assuming other people cheat just because they have more free time than me. You know envy is a very bad thing, and there's a lot of envy drooling from this thread.

It's not envy, it's a fact. I don't care that people cheat, to get lvl 50 faster or whatever, as long as I'm having fun and will get Higher at some point. I got two lvl 50's as well, but I know people that have 95% lvl 50, less botany and mining. Wonder why..

[Forbin]

You are right. We were enjoying pre patch and not complaining. You guys are us pre patch. The roles reversed. We are complaining because we can't do anything meaningful solo/duo anymore while all the clans can farm the same nm , dungeons each hour. Clap, clap. 0 posts pre patch. 30 and counting pos..

ITS A MMO! if you want to solo go play your PS3/XBOX/Wii kid.

[Aldarin]

Quote Originally Posted by Aldarin View Post
Pre-1.18
10 mobs/leve, 720sp per mob = 7200sp/leve.

sp gained from 3 leves: 21600sp
Only with a few select leves, all the others gave MUCH less. So the average was much lower.

20 mobs/behest, 400sp/mob = 8000sp/behest
Almost impossible to get more than 200 SP per mob in behest past level 35 (and it's very, very rare even past level 25). 400 is Sci-fi.

Looks like someone's on to warp the facts to try (and fail) to back Kensei's false claims.

Funny how it's someone else that didn't even get past the first half of the leveling curve.

Alright, I am not changing facts of anything of the sort. These were the numbers I had from leves and behests at around level 20. To be frank, I didn't get past the second part of the level curve simply because I wanted to get the full experience of the game by playing the different jobs. Thus I have EVERY combat job at level 20, except Lancer 36 and my Pug which is only recently at 25. I also have been leveling multiple crafting and gathering jobs. I have played the levels from 1-20 over and over again. And maybe leves and behest are better or equal now at higher levels, but to be honest NOT EVERYONE IS OVER LEVEL 40. the game should work equally as well at the lower levels as well, which my numbers have shown it does not. If you would like to prove me wrong or contest this, please stop calling me a liar and simply show me your numbers.

Also, there are not as many people in the lower levels as in the higher levels, and the party search configuration still needs work, which means that for anyone who simply wants to hop on a play for a bit, solo is the only option. I enjoy behest because it allows for solo people to simply group ogether and go. I also don't only play solo, I do parties on the weekends with my LS group, during which time I use my LNC.