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    mero-ix's Avatar
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    What I see everyday in PF when I log in is "T6-9 Progression" groups that say "Know the fight or GTFO" (or some other equivalent)... thats what I see. Hard to "know" the fight when you cant get a group to teach you. Not to mention for myself I am overseas right now for the next 2 years, so when I can play no one is online.
    Why do you need a group to "teach" you? What you do is make a PF yourself: "learning party for T6, no exp required!" Can't find a static to take you? Start your own. I've met great people that way myself. And if you're in a different timezone now, then look at transferring servers so people will be online when you are.

    What I'm seeing is a lot of entitlement: people who don't want to take the initiative to start something themselves, are expecting the entire game to revolve around their schedules, and/or expecting to be carried through everything so they don't have to spend hours on difficult content.

    Coil is my favorite part of the game and something I like to work towards, why do some want to take that away from the players who enjoy the difficulty? Coil is the only hard content we have, if you don't want to put the effort in then it's not for you. You can argue that you have put the effort in, but attempting a fight 10 times and then giving up is not "effort". People who are downing Coil spend months on the Turns, so why should you have the rewards handed to you for minimal work? People like to throw around the word "elitist" instead of just acknowledging that those "elitists" have worked their asses off and earned it.

    The cutscenes are available on YouTube for those who want story. If you want the emersion of seeing your character in the cutscenes then go beat the Turns.
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Quote Originally Posted by mero-ix View Post
    Coil is my favorite part of the game and something I like to work towards, why do some want to take that away from the players who enjoy the difficulty? snip...why should you have the rewards handed to you for minimal work?
    In regards to the bolded text. How is a story Coil taking away from everyone else? It would only add more content for everyone to participate in. Want the difficulty and rewards? Fine, then do the original Coil then. Story Mode is not going to hurt our self esteem. There would be no loot as said a thousand times in this thread. The bottom line is Coil was made for the higher than average player skill levels. The problem: SE decided to throw in the major story arches in that content. Story content should be available to everyone.
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    Story content should be available to everyone.
    So where do I pay the extra $4.99 to unlock that content?

    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    It's rather interesting to note, that only 7.4% of all players on PS3/PS4 have beat T5 (as that's the percentage of PSN FFXIV accounts that have the trophy for doing so). I'd imagine numbers for PC are pretty similar.

    Given that abysmal number, is it any wonder that people want a "Story-Mode"? Coil will still be for the top 10% of players, just with that mode it lets the other 90% at least experience the lore.
    Isn't it only 59% have even completed the main story?
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    Last edited by Exstal; 10-18-2014 at 11:50 AM.

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    Amberion Eurelt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    So where do I pay the extra $4.99 to unlock that content?
    Not Sure if that is a reference to the subscription or not. But if it is, I have to say that subscription does not mean you have to be able to do everything. Only that you are allowed to use their services, like their servers.

    It's rather interesting to note, that only 7.4% of all players on PS3/PS4 have beat T5 (as that's the percentage of PSN FFXIV accounts that have the trophy for doing so). I'd imagine numbers for PC are pretty similar.
    Considering that the attention rate of players is fairly low on this game. Which means that most players quit before they even could start coil. So that 7.4% is actually higher when you take that into consideration.
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