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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post
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    One reason could be because people wants to see it though. I still stand by my opinion with just make a CS mode if anything is open to players who don't have any real interest to coil but the back story of what happened after 1.0's events with Bahamut and Louisoix.

    But.. would they really have any reason other than that to even wanna do coil? They could also just see it then move on with their gaming. That means also people trying to clear can run to the CS npc and see all their CS's too, they'd just be running to get gear not the surprise of clearing the old content and seeing the story as they are rewarded too. :/

    So... I sorta get how it's a double edge sword and why SE isn't rushing to do this.

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    Q: With the Coil of Bahamut ending in Patch 2.4, will there be a system that allows users to finish only the story?
    A: Yes, I think we need to prepare something like this. Now, we are going to gradually lower the difficulty level, but with new patches coming out and new players coming in, we’re anticipating a time when there aren’t enough people to play through the dungeon, and we have to look into avoiding that situation. We’ve still got a ways to go before reaching that point, so it’s a little too early to set up anything concrete, but yes, I do feel we need something that lets people who can’t complete the Coil to experience the story.

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    Last edited by Lillia; 10-17-2014 at 06:25 PM.

  2. #82
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    Q: With the Coil of Bahamut ending in Patch 2.4, will there be a system that allows users to finish only the story?
    A: Yes, I think we need to prepare something like this. Now, we are going to gradually lower the difficulty level, but with new patches coming out and new players coming in, we’re anticipating a time when there aren’t enough people to play through the dungeon, and we have to look into avoiding that situation. We’ve still got a ways to go before reaching that point, so it’s a little too early to set up anything concrete, but yes, I do feel we need something that lets people who can’t complete the Coil to experience the story.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...aa739e064b3ebe
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcticFang View Post
    Okay so I wasn't dreaming. I could have sworn I saw that somewhere b4. Thank you for posting it... I can only hope that it happens soon. I could care less about gear rewards but the story completion would be nice.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcticFang View Post
    Q: With the Coil of Bahamut ending in Patch 2.4, will there be a system that allows users to finish only the story?
    A: Yes, I think we need to prepare something like this. Now, we are going to gradually lower the difficulty level, but with new patches coming out and new players coming in, we’re anticipating a time when there aren’t enough people to play through the dungeon, and we have to look into avoiding that situation. We’ve still got a ways to go before reaching that point, so it’s a little too early to set up anything concrete, but yes, I do feel we need something that lets people who can’t complete the Coil to experience the story.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...aa739e064b3ebe
    I guess this is a step in the right direction. But, hopefully this will happen before the expansion?
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  5. #85
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    I don't see the difference between watching it on YouTube and just getting the cutscenes handed to you on a silver platter.

    Before anyone says "But I want to see my character in the cutscene!", you didn't beat the content, so why would your character be in the cutscene?
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  6. #86
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    All the arguments made against this are laughable and everyone who thinks most people beat T5 is deluded.

    Hopefully something will come along after Coil is ended so everyone gets to enjoy the story and the next raid will have no story behind it, like EX primals.
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  7. #87
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    I'm not particularly keen on the idea that the OP has proposed, though I understand where they're coming from. I don't even have Second Coil unlocked and I can see their concern that Echo will make some of the boss fights more difficult rather than easier.

    I invest a lot of time into FFXIV each time I log on.However, I have not been able to do T5 because nobody wants to do it. Why? Because as the stories go, Echo actually makes Twintania more challenging (I think it has to do with raid wiping for pushing phases, as has been experienced with other bosses in this game).

    I came close, though, for my character on Behemoth. Members of my FC were going to join with some members from our "sister FC" to get myself and another player past T5. And then the two of us would most likely be sitting in the Sister FC's second static group. Sadly, I was the only one that showed up on the appointed day and time. The other person didn't log on at all. I keep hoping for another chance, though. Maybe I'll get it when 2.4 drops.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    (I think it has to do with raid wiping for pushing phases, as has been experienced with other bosses in this game).
    Phase pushing is not as dominant in T5 as it is in the Second Coil. The most that can happen wrongly is by pushing Twintania into her Divebomb phase while someone is trapped inside a conflagration, and pushing into the Hatch phase while a dreadknight is up. Both times are actually pretty recoverable. Also, you'd actually want to push the phases on most occasions so as to not deal with the mechanics further. These include the Scourge and Twister phases. So the Echo does help tremendously with killing those stray conflagrations and dreadknights, as well as pushing those pesky phases.

    I'm not trying to sound like a jerk - I'm just trying to correct those "rumors".
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  9. #89
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    As someone who has given up for the past month or so on Coils 6 - 9, we don't need a boost. The mechanics first off are still what kill people, this is why I just did a Titan HM and we ended up with 4 people left...

    T5 is fine, there is no need for it to be lowered anymore, as the iLV rises the stressful runs will become easier to handle. You're asking for mechanics to be adjusted, which in that case just..give you the win. Skip the fight and jump right into the cutscene.

    It's difficult to progress without a static..I don't have one because I don't have 5 hours to dedicate every night or weekends because I have stuff to do. This is the one thing hardcore players or players who have a set time period to play and choose to static have.

    You want to fix people not progressing in coil to 9? Change the people..this is why I can't complete Ramuh or Turn 9..there's always someone who doesn't want to do things the way they should..checking the box "slow and easy" doesn't work. Let the hardcores have their 3rd turn, I've been so busy with casual content that I'm okay with waiting for an echo boost to 9.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 10-17-2014 at 09:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
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    This wouldn't be as big of a need if SE didn't put such meaningful or significant plot behind such difficult content.
    Sorry for skipping over 3 pages but this content is in no way difficult, the only "hard" part is the learning process (seriously, I still see T5 learning parties on Excal, people are trying), the problem is the majority of people have no drive to learn, improve and overcome challenges, they just want the carrot fed to them. I mean, isn't that the entire point of computer games, to have challenges thrown at us and work to overcome them?

    If a 20 ilv difference (soon to be 40 for T5...) and a free 20% HP, damage and healing boost doesn't help, all were saying is "we suck at computer games, give us FFXIV in book form plz".
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