Coil Lite Please

[Vespar]

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Your comment sounds very aggressive and snarky Much of coil comes with experience, and its hard to get experienced with the current way of things, especially if you don't have much time to play. But like the poster above me, I also feel that the majority of the issues surrounding coil are the end game community and the attitudes that are revealed when something doesn't go as planned and wipes happen....

[Metatronn]

So what do you expect them to do even if they should realize some faults in their playing style? What's the GRAND ULTIMATE SOLUTION to create peace amongst us all? Or do the veterans of the game ENJOY sneering down upon the more casual minded players, fat off their victorious pride?

Like the lady above proves, they like to show off. These days i was in the adventures guild on Gridania and a Drg (same class as me) comes and see me sit down, he was in a normal drg gear (myth) but then he stayed in front of me and change little by little to HA. Laugh so hard this time, asked he how much he payed for the carry. Hahaha thats really ridiculous.

[KyrsIsley]

Yeah, they need to do this asap. The majority of ppl are not able to find other good ppl do to coils, cause the ones able are on static. SE needs to stop paying attention on the hardcore minority.

There is one dungeon with 4 bosses every 6 months tailored to be challenging and not face roll and you call for SE to stop paying attention to hardcore players? lol.

People like to label challenging content as "hardcore" and demand a nerf so they can "enjoy" what they paid for. Is the content challenging? Sure, but pugs are downing it every week on my server. I've gotten more than 1 kill in T9 by pugging with 7 other complete strangers.

Simply labeling yourself as a "casual" player doesn't mean you should be able to survive standing in fire. Sometimes you are just not as good as you think you are, and should really use that as a motivation to get better (Dunning–Kruger effect). People like to say "I can dodge X 90% of the time, I just need to find 7 others that can do the same." However, take Titan as an example, if all 7 people can dodge 90% of the time, that means there is only a 48% of chance that all 8 people are going to make it out of a given wave of plumes. In an average Titan fight, you get more than 10 waves of plumes, that's means you have less than 0.1% of chance that everyone making it out of that fight alive.

In a MMO, we all start out even. Some may have more time than the others, but how far you can get in game is completely dependent on your own, even for contents that require team work.

Adding story mode so people can experience the story is the same approach SE currently has with the new primals, which I personally dislike. The new hard mode primals are basically story mode with the extreme modes providing actual gear reward. If anything I think they should go back to the original approach they had with Garuda, Ifrit, and Titan. You do the story mode to watch the story, then have the hard modes reward players with something without too much challenge, and for people who want to challenge themselves or min/max their gear they can move onto extreme modes to acquire raid tier level gear.

[Parz3val]

They're making a coil 2 lite by adding echo. You can burn turn 6 and ignore some of the mechanics already. Turn 7 most teams need to hold back on DPS... Turn 8/9 are DPS checks and DPS checks will be gone with echo.

Read the OP.

Essentially says Echo won't suffice.

[Elim]

its hard to get experienced with the current way of things.

I don't agree. I see turn 6-9 progression groups in PF every day, nearly all day. This may not be the case on low pop servers, but if it isn't then you should consider moving servers. If you don't see progression groups then you can also make one. If you don't have the time to wait in a growing team, hop on once in awhile to see if you can find a nearly filled team. You can also join a FC that does carries(for free or pay). Just yesterday one of the members of my static suggested we carry some people in our FC...just to be nice. There's lots of options, IMO.

Read the OP.

I did...and? I don't think they need to make any special variant of coil because echo will be added.

[Metatronn]

I hope they learn from it and maybe dont just put the main reason ppl like the history, behind the most difficult content.

[Vespar]

I don't agree. I see turn 6-9 progression groups in PF every day, nearly all day. This may not be the case of low pop servers, but if it isn't then you should consider moving servers. If you don't see progression groups then you can also make one. If you don't have the time to wait in a growing team, hop on once in awhile to see if you can find a nearly filled team. You can also join a FC that does carries(for free or pay). Just yesterday one of the members of my static suggested we carry some people in our FC...just to be nice. There's lots of options, IMO.

What I see everyday in PF when I log in is "T6-9 Progression" groups that say "Know the fight or GTFO" (or some other equivalent)... thats what I see. Hard to "know" the fight when you cant get a group to teach you. Not to mention for myself I am overseas right now for the next 2 years, so when I can play no one is online. To counter your other comments, not everyone is in an FC that has done Coil T6-9 much less has players to carry them (nor do they want to leave their current FC's just to get coil done). Nor do many have enough gil to pay for carry (which I have not yet seen offered on my server). Also, many of us have our own personal houses now that make swapping servers not an option or we'd lose the millions of gil we spent on them. I could argue Coil issues all day, the fact remains that many of us feel little is being done to help those stuck on T5 get through it and catch up into SCOB and eventually into Third coil. This is the issue many face and even the echo does little to help really. For myself, until coil difficulty is eased I will just watch it on YT because I dont want to deal with the stress of people while trying to learn the fights.

[Wyrmnus]

I don't agree. I see turn 6-9 progression groups in PF every day, nearly all day. This may not be the case on low pop servers, but if it isn't then you should consider moving servers. If you don't see progression groups then you can also make one. If you don't have the time to wait in a growing team, hop on once in awhile to see if you can find a nearly filled team. You can also join a FC that does carries(for free or pay). Just yesterday one of the members of my static suggested we carry some people in our FC...just to be nice. There's lots of options, IMO.



I did...and? I don't think they need to make any special variant of coil because echo will be added.

Echo increases stats, not SOCIAL ABILITY, which alot of Experienced Raiders lack these days.

[wicked-one]

I only can repeat this to extend, after once beaten, it seems like piece of cake afterwards...

It´s all scripted fights, so basically, learn your moves and dance ^^

I see no problem in Coil, i see the problem in players attending to it half assed.

I sometimes go in there with Pugs, or people who want to help a friend, but they start off without voice (no need) but also without simply clarifying basics like how to handle the fireballs...

but the story won´t change, no matter how much we argue here - tbh, i don´t hope they hand it out on the gold platter (as its already on the silver platter by now)

my only advice, don´t try with PUGs, set up Linkshells. You don´t need no static, but don´t go along with each and everything the PF washes in. Get a Rooster of good people and get used to play with them. It´s like in any other Team-Sports.

You don´t win the Superbowl if you pick up your Quarterback 5 minutes before the game on the parking lot, behind the Hot Dog Station

[SarcasmMisser]

Honestly... I have no issues with the actual content itself. My beef has always been with the PEOPLE. THE END GAME COMMUNITY.

I'm sorry that you have difficulty getting along with people.