The Final Coil of Bahamut Preview

[Dwill]

Item level inflation. People who can't win would just get carried leading to many people having gear that they shouldn't have.

- Naoki Yoshida 2014

As for me, I'm stoked to be able to wipe hundreds of times on my shiny new Ninja!

Yet they let a free for all Sands buffet with the Hunt. They should work on keeping their stance consistent.

[Cynric]

Yet they let a free for all Sands buffet with the Hunt. They should work on keeping their stance consistent.

To be fair that was an accident they owned up to. They really shoulda known the community would find a way to exploit hunts.

[Dwill]

Let's not forget we've even simplified how to do Divebombs and twisters have been super nerfed since back then. I'm not saying people don't fail at it. Since 2.0 I have seen plenty of crazy nonsense. I'm just saying in the practical sense of the word, these things shouldn't be considered difficult.

I mean I'm not ignorant to the fact that people still can't get through T5 with 20% echo and i110 gear. <.<

No they aren't difficult in the practical sense of the word but your average player's skills are quite subpar so in the end, people will say it's too hard and will want it nerfed.

To be fair that was an accident they owned up to. They really shoulda known the community would find a way to exploit hunts.

To me, that acknowledgement came way too late. They could have easily fixed that situation yet decided to not do any change at all, even when the situation was brought to their attention quite early on but now, it's quite obviously too late for that. The best we can hope now is that they pick a player-friendly stance and stick to it.

[Cynric]

No they aren't difficult in the practical sense of the word but your average player's skills are quite subpar so in the end, people will say it's too hard and will want it nerfed.



To me, that acknowledgement came way too late. They could have easily fixed that situation yet decided to not do any change at all, even when the situation was brought to their attention quite early on but now, it's quite obviously too late for that. The best we can hope now is that they pick a player-friendly stance and stick to it.

Agreed on both points. Its just a shame to see what the average player considers difficult I guess.

[HakuroDK]

No they aren't difficult in the practical sense of the word but your average player's skills are quite subpar so in the end, people will say it's too hard and will want it nerfed.

To me, old Coil content isn't even that hard. The hardest part of Coil is getting a full team together that knows exactly what they're doing.

I've run and wiped on Turn 5 a large number of times, only twice of which were my fault (because I was new and still learning the fight because, despite watching videos and reading strats, I'm still a kinesthetic learner and didn't get crap from either).

Whenever I want to join a static, they're either not looking for a Warrior or they can't be bothered to come up with a proper raid schedule.

Whenever I want to start a static, not enough people want to join to fill it up.

The biggest frustration for me when it comes to Coil is that I am forced to rely more on teamwork with people I don't even know than my own level of skill. I mean, I am a master when it comes to evading AoEs. I am a very good tank who is also a quick learner, and I know exactly what to do in order to maximize damage over survivability and vice-versa as well as when exactly to make that shift in playstyle. The fact that there are worse tanks than myself who can clear T5-T9 (and I am not saying all tanks are worse than I am, but I have met a select number of tanks who are absolutely terrible that have Allagan weapons) speaks volumes about how it doesn't matter how good of a tank I am if the rest of my party can't operate as a cohesive unit.

[Alukah]

Let's not forget we've even simplified how to do Divebombs and twisters have been super nerfed since back then. I'm not saying people don't fail at it. Since 2.0 I have seen plenty of crazy nonsense. I'm just saying in the practical sense of the word, these things shouldn't be considered difficult.

I mean I'm not ignorant to the fact that people still can't get through T5 with 20% echo and i110 gear. <.<

Aren't divebombs and twisters still insta-death even with 20% echo / i110 gear?

[SinisterIsBack]

just a shame to see what the average player considers difficult I guess.

This guy gets it!

Aren't divebombs and twisters still insta-death even with 20% echo / i110 gear?

Divebombs can be if you get knocked into the wall. (but don't do much damage really)

Twisters are still one shot.

[Steady]

Aren't divebombs and twisters still insta-death even with 20% echo / i110 gear?

Twisters are. Divebombs never were a insta death, less your out of HP or get knocked to the wall.

[Lord_Zlatan]

People freak out too much when it comes to twisters. .. it's really, at this point, a crutch people stand on to say they don't want to put the time in to clear. Not all people but most. If they are that hard to deal with, u wouldn't be able to farm T5 in df. Was I lucky or..?

[Alukah]

This guy gets it!



Divebombs can be if you get knocked into the wall. (but don't do much damage really)

Twisters are still one shot.

Oh... Alright.


To this day I still wonder how I got those people killed with divebombs when they weren't close to me...

People freak out too much when it comes to twisters. .. it's really, at this point, a crutch people stand on to say they don't want to put the time in to clear. Not all people but most. If they are that hard to deal with, u wouldn't be able to farm T5 in df. Was I lucky or..?

It's because people tunnel vision a lot here, hence why "loldrg" exists and such.