Alot of these high level players today learned their roles in Fates, that is to say they didn't. They were part of those Fate grind lynch mobs where the standard enmity mechanics are tossed out the window in favor of some strange form of weighted enmity system, where most of the time the person with aggro would have to either leave the Fate or die in order to lose it. Thus you've got players that dump everything at every mob and expect their enmity bleed moves to save them, if they even remember to use them. This is very counter-intuitive learning. Worse still, these Fate-kids are 'teaching' newer players that their way is the proper way to play their roles. I mean, there's even a belief going around that healers who don't DD are terrible healers that should be kicked in favor of 'good' healers. Seriously. It's a 'crime' to just heal, now. It makes me sad.