MAGE STRIKE

[Gramul]

Negative, I for one chose to be an offensive spell caster. I didn't ask to be the class with the only aoe cures. If they feel the need to pigeon hole people at least give the existing players a way out of it.

Have you tried switching classes?

[Neptune]

Have you tried switching classes?

Don't be so condescending. This isn't the title screen of the game. I am rightfully upset that they swapped my character from BLM to WHM.

Also, now we are finding that by making Conjurer WHM and taking cures away from THM, guess who is getting into Darkhold.. GLA, CON, ARC. Every other class is getting left out because no one wants to deal with aoe cure cost. So before you think this thread is just about mages, consider the facts. It's affected every class but GLA and ARC.

MAGE STRIKE 2011.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Don't be so condescending. This isn't the title screen of the game. I am rightfully upset that they swapped my character from BLM to WHM.

Also, now we are finding that by making Conjurer WHM and taking cures away from THM, guess who is getting into Darkhold.. GLA, CON, ARC. Every other class is getting left out because no one wants to deal with aoe cure cost. So before you think this thread is just about mages, consider the facts. It's affected every class but GLA and ARC.

MAGE STRIKE 2011.

Translation = QQx10

no class is "pigeon holed" as some are trying to claim, we can equip/swap skills for a reason, all CONs don't have to be "WHM" and all THM don't have to be "BLM"

[Physic]

Translation = QQx10

no class is "pigeon holed" as some are trying to claim, we can equip/swap skills for a reason, all CONs don't have to be "WHM" and all THM don't have to be "BLM"

you cant swap the aoe cures, and skills that are cross classed have longer recast times, and are 50-20% less potent. In the new system where difficulty is based around living and dying in the mp vs Cure potential gameplay. doing 20% less heal amounts for the same large mp, means no you cant cross class healing anymore, you can help people a little bit, thats about it.

Con is pigeon held, because the hard part of the game is now cure/mp ratios, so even if they could do great DD, the hard part isnt in DD its in curing, so people will say you must cure, you are the only one who even has a chance at it.

They also made glad the defacto tank of choice for all situations.

Arc is the best DD now because it takes the least risk with its DD, and since dificulty is now about cure/mp that is of huge value. Not to mention its probably still the best DD in straight damage.

yes they are pigeon held, yes this class balancing is heavy trinity, ignore all else. yes they have to adjust it, im just surprised they didnt see this coming.

[Firon]

Don't be so condescending. This isn't the title screen of the game. I am rightfully upset that they swapped my character from BLM to WHM.

Also, now we are finding that by making Conjurer WHM and taking cures away from THM, guess who is getting into Darkhold.. GLA, CON, ARC. Every other class is getting left out because no one wants to deal with aoe cure cost. So before you think this thread is just about mages, consider the facts. It's affected every class but GLA and ARC.

MAGE STRIKE 2011.

IDK anyone in their right mind looking at cons abilities could see they was gonna be whm i'm just sayin.....Esuna stoneskin Poisona, Silena, Con has always been a bad nuker anyhow. Also SE wont care how much your cry for change in your class cause people voted for drastic changes even if you did not you knew it was coming onlything i agree with that the mp cost are to high.

Cure 1 should have been 20 mp then cure 2 should have been 50 then cure III being 80. now the AoE i think Curaga should have been like 80 MP and Curaga II at least 120

Edit: in my eyes THM is still an main healer for the Tank and CON's are Aoe healer's for melee just an opinion.

[Physic]

IDK anyone in their right mind looking at cons abilities could see they was gonna be whm i'm just sayin.....Esuna stoneskin Poisona, Silena, Con has always been a bad nuker anyhow. Also SE wont care how much your cry for change in your class cause people voted for drastic changes even if you did not you knew it was coming onlything i agree with that the mp cost are to high.

Cure 1 should have been 20 mp then cure 2 should have been 50 then cure III being 80. now the AoE i think Curaga should have been like 80 MP and Curaga II at least 120

Edit: in my eyes THM is still an main healer for the Tank and CON's are Aoe healer's for melee just an opinion.

no, sacrifice sucks as single target, because it sucks your hp. the thm gives regen, but then it loses life, it has to use sac on tank, and cure on itself, or sac itself. In an mp cure starved world, you cannot profit by using sac as a main heal anymore, and you cant spam it when you are going to have to go back and cure yourself after.

[Gramul]

Wasn't really trying to be condescending. Sorry if my bluntness came off that way.
I'm just sugesting that you want to be a nuke, switch to the class that nukes.
If you're upset over the fact that parties don't want nukes for dungeons, then why do you want to nuke anyway?

[Neptune]

Wasn't really trying to be condescending. Sorry if my bluntness came off that way.
I'm just sugesting that you want to be a nuke, switch to the class that nukes.
If you're upset over the fact that parties don't want nukes for dungeons, then why do you want to nuke anyway?

I'm surprised you're even asking this but you must honestly not know so I'll explain.

So, what is the class that nukes? Is it the class that has elemental magic and ancient magic, with all the classic Final Fantasy nukes like Blizzard and Thunder? No, well why not? Cause the dev team decides one day that it's the class with Astral/Umbral offensive spells? Do you see what I mean?

Why do I want to nuke if parties aren't looking for nukers? Another great question. Why aren't parties looking for nukers? Could it be because of how broken the game mechanics are? Is it too much to ask for a dev team to get it right so that typical expectations set by the Final Fantasy series can hold true in this game?

[Firon]

I'm surprised you're even asking this but you must honestly not know so I'll explain.

So, what is the class that nukes? Is it the class that has elemental magic and ancient magic, with all the classic Final Fantasy nukes like Blizzard and Thunder? No, well why not? Cause the dev team decides one day that it's the class with Astral/Umbral offensive spells? Do you see what I mean?

Why do I want to nuke if parties aren't looking for nukers? Another great question. Why aren't parties looking for nukers? Could it be because of how broken the game mechanics are? Is it too much to ask for a dev team to get it right so that typical expectations set by the Final Fantasy series can hold true in this game?

You do know THM has been the better nuker since forever right?

[Neptune]

You do know THM has been the better nuker since forever right?

The thing is I like the idea of casting offensive elemental magic. That's what I like about this particular videogame.. is it too much to ask for the classic Black Mage who casts offensive magic like Blizzard and Thunder? Is THM a better damage dealer by design or because of broken Ancient Magic spells? Have you thought about it?