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[Neptune]

In regards to mana costs....unless I'm not understanding correctly, the ability to cast in passive will allow you to regen mana during battle.

People are taking this thought and running with it but the reality is casting a spell in passive mode will probably switch you do active mode the second the spell gets off.

Yeah, and separation of cure and aoe cure pisses me off. I had to remove all tactical abilities from my bar to make room for the shitton of different but same spells. Casting the proper cure on the proper people on the fly is a pain in the ass Where two cure spells on my bar did the trick, now I need 4. And there's nothing to do but stand around and try to figure out which of my many cure spells should be cast on whom, and that encompasses the entirety of my party experience post 1:18.

Yeah, I have a ton of tactical abilities on my action bar.. it's going to be ludicrous if we need to equip an aoe spell for each spell in our list. It's like the dev team really hasn't thought it through. They must all play Gladiator. Correct me if I'm wrong dev team!

Clunky and broken =/= a challenge.

For example, if I'm a biker looking for a more challenging trail to ride on... I want to get off the kiddy trail with my rad bike... Not have someone come along and break my bike to shit so now its a "challenge" to ride the kiddy trail with it.

lmao.. incredible analogy.

All the player that are QQ'in about MP cost are bad players who wants the "Watch Movie + Spam AoE Cure" back.

Play Properly for a while, if you struggle with keeping up MP, learn to conserve it.

This is an effect of what happens when you hold hands and let go.

How bout not insulting mages you don't know? Anybody still playing the game at this point is not likely to be someone who likes to do what you said.

Have no fear Neptune. They keep saying we're whining/complaining but when they die in battle, because we don't have enough MP to make "miracles" happen then the whining will be a shared effort.

I appreciate your thoughts.

I think that was me?

And I'm in. Mage Strike 2011.

Actually ealier I was in a dungeon raid and their solution to MP was to bring 5 mages. So I basically tagged along and didn't pull my wand out once. I just watched and every now and then did something as shit hit the fan, but basically leached. Yep. That's me. GIANT DOUCHE. 5 mages, though? Really?

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Lol, it must've been you. Thank you Shai! /bow

And that sounds ridiculous.. when I run it I'll probably have that many mages too. Cause F 'em, that's why.

I don't really have time to sift through all these mage threads, so I'm just going to ask here and hope I get a reply. Through a majority of the posts I see, its either talking about how "my THM can nuke just fine" or how "Conjurer is the dedicated healer with all its new heal spells".

What I want to know is, with a majority of elemental spells under its belt, can a Conjurer be offensive post 1.18? I played for a short while today for the first time in a long time, and while I am only level 19 I considered my damage to be acceptable against similar level enemies. However, if I were a higher level character, lets say Lv 45-50 in the new dungeon, is an offensive Conjurer feasible given someone else is in charge of being the main healer?

I can't bring myself to log in, but I think offense is possible if you raise your Piety and cast your elemental dots like I do. You can do around 350 hp / tick with that. Nukes generally are pretty broken. They are good if you pop your offensive spell buffs and magic burst on a battle regimen.. then you can do around 2k damage. Other than that they do only about 200 damage or so. Your main problem is going to be finding that main healer with the low player populations.

[Shai]

I can't even read the rest of this thread, honestly.

I can't believe that you all think because we're unhappy we "can't adapt" or "can't play our job" or "suck as healers."
It's the complete opposite. I love healing. I love challenge. I love adapting to situations.

You know in XI when the team got together and discussed the strat?
Warrior, you 2nd voke. Ninja SATA that WAR. BLM make sure you do this.
"Oh oh! Oh! MEME ME IN FRONT. What do I do?"
"FFS, Shai. You keep people alive. That's all you do and you do it well."
"Oh. ._. Really? NOthing else? Same strat as Kirin, Tiamat, Odin, Bahamut, Nyzul, Salvage, Fafnir? That's all I do?"

Yeah. CON is not all about healing. At least not until today. It actually had strategy, and timing, and MP management before this patch and anyone who says otherwise is the "bad mage" in question. Whoever these "LOL AOE CURESPAM" people were, I'd like a list so I keep them out of my LS. No one I know played like that outside of behest.

Shame on you guys for insulting me as a player simply because what was advertised (and true!) got destroyed over-night. Now guess what the strat is for CON at Great Buffalo, Dodore, Darkhold is "heal bitch" and as some classy melee-onry player said earlier "as it should be" and as some ignorant person said "as it was intended to be."

I can't read this thread anymore. Mage Strike 2011.

[AarosLunos]

I can't read this thread anymore. Mage Strike 2011.

Thanks for continuing to prove my point.

But so many people here act like this is the end-all-be-all final class adjustment EVAR for mages. Those who act that way are blind fools.

[Shai]

Thanks for continuing to prove my point.

I just can't take how arrogant and selfish many of you sound.

Jesus, what if I said women belong in the kitchen. It's what God intended.
That's what some people are telling me about CON being strictly healer.

It's rude and uncalled for and based in complete fiction. If Conjurer was meant to heal and only heal and sit there as a dedicated healer and micromanage your HP all day, why do I have Fire & Flare? Just for solo? Is that what we're saying?

So like I could say women are welcome to have opinions as long as they don't think they really matter?
(Well Flare doesn't really matter, but back in the real world of Final Fantasy it's a kick-ass spell).

Stop pretending it's not offensive and biased (because it's coming directly from non-mages).
I wasn't put in this game to keep you alive.
I was put here to have fun the way I want to have fun - Quoth Tanaka & Yoshida.
Yet they talked out both sides of their mouths I guess because now I'm forced to play a very specific way.

[AarosLunos]

I just can't take how arrogant and selfish many of you sound.

Maybe you should re-read your posts.

Jesus, what if I said women belong in the kitchen. It's what God intended.
That's what some people are telling me about CON being strictly healer.

Errr no. No one said that at all. You're just inferring it. How many times must you be told that they'll likely continue making adjustments?

It's rude and uncalled for and based in complete fiction. If Conjurer was meant to heal and only heal and sit there as a dedicated healer and micromanage your HP all day, why do I have Fire & Flare? Just for solo? Is that what we're saying?

If you're having that much trouble, maybe you know some poor tanks as well. They can be just as much to blame here. If you are having issues because you have to heal multiple targets then obviously the tank in whatever party is failsauce. Though I will complain about is that War Drum, Taunts and Provokes are somewhat broken right now. But I doubt that was an intended 'feature'. I do believe that as a CON you should be able to use your DoT and elemental spells. But if you have to use curega too frequently then your tank sucks.

So like I could say women are welcome to have opinions as long as they don't think they really matter?
(Well Flare doesn't really matter, but back in the real world of Final Fantasy it's a kick-ass spell).

Not sure why your bringing on misogyny here, its a pretty poor analogy.

Stop pretending it's not offensive and biased (because it's coming directly from non-mages).
I wasn't put in this game to keep you alive.
I was put here to have fun the way I want to have fun - Quoth Tanaka & Yoshida.
Yet they talked out both sides of their mouths I guess because now I'm forced to play a very specific way.

Its not offensive. Its a class adjustment in a freaking video game.

[Drunk-Bandit]

Hello My name is Shai... and I believe in sexism against gurls...

O.o Damn that's hawt... lets get married shai... as a THM & CON we can become one :3 muhahahahaha!!! *hides a dagger behind his back* Poor fool . Really tho... people shouldn't get too attached to these classes, we're yet to have a dedicated Job role system in this game which won't be here until patch 1.20 lol. Just look at nerfs as if S.E adding hardmode content in this game... nothing is easy anymore... and I notice I actually have to pay attention to my Comp screen now when playing Thm unless I wanna die of course..

[Shai]

O.o Damn that's hawt... lets get married shai... as a THM & CON we can become one :3 muhahahahaha!!! *hides a dagger behind his back* Poor fool . Really tho... people shouldn't get too attached to these classes, we're yet to have a dedicated Job role system in this game which won't be here until patch 1.20 lol. Just look at nerfs as if S.E adding hardmode content in this game... nothing is easy anymore... and I notice I actually have to pay attention to my Comp screen now when playing Thm unless I wanna die of course..

Sorry, I'm taken.

Also I was illustrating a point using examples that people understand to be "wrong."

[Cantaffordheals]

At this rate they might as well bring summoner back and we can have our sub job be CON!!!

"Main heal and rest it's what we do best!!"

I thought this was XIV why did the dev team decide to drop the V and turn it into XI again?!!

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[Meleena]

You wanted healers right?
Learn to heal :P
Mage racism go!

[Shai]

It's an homage to the book & creature that the band Shai Hulud named themselves in homage to.

Dune

I think the band is ok, though.

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