Paladins are a rodeo clown. Warriors are a matador.

[Yhoiryo]

Yay first post.

Anyways I feel like people like to bash on pld a lot when compared to war, when they are two different jobs. Also if its damage and numbers you want to put out why not play a DPS class instead?

For pre-lvl50 dungeons I don't care if I'm pumping out high numbers or doing damage to every monster we encounter, that's what the dps are for, what I care about is that I'm doing my job, which is soaking up damage and keeping the attention of monsters and trust me, it feels good when you do it right and your party will appreciate you for it. I've heard lots of stories of what tanks don't do when running dungeons that makes me smh, both pld and war.

But I'll admit at times it can be hard doing that in pre-lvl50 dungeons but that's only because your dps are being impatient, really it's a group effort and if your dps or even healer are running around doing things they shouldn't than you're going to have to put in some extra effort into things or go with the whole "you own it/that's your problem now."

I haven't touched warrior nore does it interest me at the moment but the main job of war and pld is being the tank, holding aggro and letting everyone else do their job, everyone has a role and when all done right it makes things fun.

[HakuroDK]

There's meant to be a difference in playstyle. Paladins are supposed to be iron walls that mitigate damage. They are the proactive tanks. Warriors are supposed to be the walls of living wood that slowly heal. They are the reactive tanks.

A lot of a Warrior's healing potential is highly dependent on damage dealt, which is the reason why WAR DPS is so high. We don't have nearly the same defensive capabilities Paladins do. We have Foresight as our only defensive buff. That's it. Nothing else. Warriors also get garbage for cross-class abilities. For ideal abilities, we get... what, Provoke? That's pretty much it for useful Warrior abilities. Paladins get MRD's Foresight and Bloodbath as well as CNJ's Stoneskin.

Does a Defiance Warrior deal more damage than a Shield Oath Paladin? Sure, but there is a very good reason for that, and that reason has to do with being able to shrug off the kinds of hits that a Warrior has difficulty dealing with, like Twintania's Death Sentence.

It's common sense that a 2-handed axe would deal more damage than a one-handed blade and a shield, and it makes just as much sense for a shield to block more damage than a 2-handed axe. That's just logic. And the game reflects that quite well. If you want to deal more damage as a tank, play the tank with the heavier weapon. Otherwise, take pride in the fact that you can mitigate a hell of a lot more damage than I could ever hope to just due to things like a natural Block rate, three times as many defensive buffs, and a damage mitigation spell tied to universal cooldown.

[Exstal]

some paladin still spread the false information that paladin with sword oath can do more damage than warrior *sighs* i still wait to see a paladin land some critical at 1100+

It's not false information :l

Spike damage != DPS

[VesperiaTonberry]

Just to throw in my 2 gil, as a WHM, I prefer to join a party with PLD tank. I don't know why, but I seem to have harder time when I heal WAR. They seem more squishy. They sometimes instantly die during mad massive pull and I feel like I'm a shitty healer. Or maybe I really do suck as a healer. :'(

Whenever I join a Roulette, I constantly pray to get a PLD tank. If I emerge in Stone Vigil with a WAR tank, I want to /facedesk (or /facekeyboard).

Yes PLD don't have spike damage to splash to the whole group of enemies, but they seem to have notably higher survivability. And when I duo with my PLD friend, I feel invincible. We could duo pretty much anything that's outside of Duty Finder. I believe many healers out there also have much love for the Paladins!

Sorry to hear you hate your job. It's sad.

as a warrior i could solo everything outside of duty finder and Rank A/S

[Aleczan]

as a warrior i could solo everything outside of duty finder and Rank A/S

XD Just curious, what about G5 Treasure map? Like those that spawn Alpha Morbol or Alpha Chimera?

FYI, we cheated and summoned 2 chocobos, though.

[VesperiaTonberry]

XD Just curious, what about G5 Treasure map? Like those that spawn Alpha Morbol or Alpha Chimera?

FYI, we cheated and summoned 2 chocobos, though.

yup solo'd them,
for morbol just save stun for bad breath, chimera is just survive the damage lol

[Aleczan]

yup solo'd them,
for morbol just save stun for bad breath, chimera is just survive the damage lol

That's awesome.!

Maybe I just had bad luck with Roulette and WAR tanks. One WAR pulled everything until the last room before first boss in Dzemael and died and rage quit on me while BRD said it was my fault. That and so many other unlucky instances with WAR tanks that became my Duty Finder nightmares.....

[LunarEmerald]

What you smokin' boy? Nobody says that.

Paladins have higher dps in sword oath and less in shield. Paladins make better ots when you want the extra deeps.

[Mahri]

Paladins need love, I agree. They could start by having their interrupt taken off the GCD and letting Spirits Within and Circle of Scorn pack more of a punch.

That said, as a Warrior, you can't really spam Overpower, or you'll run out of TP really fast. It's a very important, useful, and conspicuously fun ability, but it's been very carefully designed to punish you if you get too carried away. The presiding theme of the Warrior job is savagery, disciplined.

[Alukah]

I hated every little second of leveling PLD, and well both low level tanks are just terribly designed, it's no wonder no one wants to play tanks, instead of stepping stones they have giant walls, and god forbid if you get a synced dps while you're not synced, hope you have the best gear at your level.