Paladins are a rodeo clown. Warriors are a matador.

[silentwindfr]

I never really came across anyone who thought PLD could match WAR in terms of damage.

Actually, it should be common knowledge that Warrior beats Paladin any day in damage output.

some paladin still spread the false information that paladin with sword oath can do more damage than warrior *sighs* i still wait to see a paladin land some critical at 1100+

[SeraviEdalborez]

some paladin still spread the false information that paladin with sword oath can do more damage than warrior *sighs* i still wait to see a paladin land some critical at 1100+

Big numbers syndrome is curable if you seek medical attention.

Sword Oath adds up. As OT PLD is not "miles behind" WAR. WAR trumps PLD easily in terms of DPS when comparing Defiance WAR to Shield Oath PLD. But battle of the off-tanks is not so easily decided.

[Exstal]

some paladin still spread the false information that paladin with sword oath can do more damage than warrior *sighs* i still wait to see a paladin land some critical at 1100+

It's not false information :l

Spike damage != DPS

[silentwindfr]

It's not false information :l

Spike damage != DPS

it's true, that the spike damage, however, the warrior increase all him damage from 20% when the sword oath only increase auto attack damage by 50%. other point, warrior reduce defense against slashing damage by 10% and reduce the damage deal by the target of 10% as off tank the warrior is more powerfull by far and more interesting than the paladin. however, in terms of main tank, paladin is far better.

but seriously the paladin that try to say: "we can deal as much or more damage than the warrior" are simply clueless.

[Enjuden]

it's true, that the spike damage, however, the warrior increase all him damage from 20% when the sword oath only increase auto attack damage by 50%. other point, warrior reduce defense against slashing damage by 10% and reduce the damage deal by the target of 10% as off tank the warrior is more powerfull by far and more interesting than the paladin. however, in terms of main tank, paladin is far better.

but seriously the paladin that try to say: "we can deal as much or more damage than the warrior" are simply clueless.

I wish I could forget that PLD has Fight or Flight, which is the best offensive CD in the game.

30% extra damage, with zero penalty, and sixty seconds of downtime compared to the one hundred seconds of Blood for Blood or Raging Strikes. It also lasts ten seconds longer than the other damage boosts.

Oh, and it's also a lower cooldown than Berserk/Unchained. Just saying.

[silentwindfr]

snips

30% of damage more for 30 second against 50% of damage added for 20 second, if you want my mind, i still prefer berserk. without forget it's push the warrior at +80% of damage for 20 sec...when the paladin only get the auto attack to 180 potency while he get an increase of damage on the skill of 30%.

i do have both well equiped the dps in offtank of the warrior is far stronger than paladin and like i did said the warrior offer more tool usefull than paladin as offtank. but if you think about it, that normal, the paladin is the main tank, when the warrior is more suited for be the offtank, that don't means you can't do the inverse, only that both a better suited in this role.

[Sapphic]

30% of damage more for 30 second against 50% of damage added for 20 second

Berserk is not 50% damage increase, its +50% attack power for 20 seconds. Fight or flight is pure damage increase.

[Sapphic]

It's not false information :l

Spike damage != DPS

This.

Otherwise DRGs would out DPS MNK.

Berserk increase Attack power by 50% for 20 seconds.Fight or flight is a straight damage increase by 30% for 30 seconds. Fight or flight wins. But yes, PLD is the lowest AE damage of every job, also a well played WAR isnt really any squishier than a PLD. Maintain Storms Path and good timing of inner beast for the spike damage, which is pretty predictable with near all boss fights.