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  1. #131
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    Says the non-mage.

    I bet white people really look sympathetic when they tell black people "it's not offensive."

    News flash: The offender cannot be the judge of offensive.

    and if I wanted to suffer the verbal slings and arrows of the "majority" of this thread I would go back and quote you every instance of people telling me it's what CON was meant to be, and it's exactly how CON should be played. I'm sure you could find it on your own, but I guess the burden of proof is on me.

    Too bad I couldn't read anymore of those awful posts about what a bad person I am because I don't like the changes.

    Edit: Shame on me.
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    Seriously AarosLunos, you haven't said one good thing in this thread. You ignored the points of the OP, and took up bashing the people that play mage classes. If the dev team changed your class into another class you would not be happy about it. Plain and simple. When are you going to realize that this is what this is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    Too bad I couldn't read anymore of those awful posts about what a bad person I am because I don't like the changes.
    Funny! You said that a couple of posts back too! So you're just a bad troll?
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  4. #134
    A job that was clearly meant to be a Black Mage is now being forced to turn into a White Mage (with really crappy nuking abilities).

    If the dev team wanted a white mage job then they should have just made one! Don't force CON to only heal when there is already a limited choice for disciples of magic. If the job system is not complete yet then why change any of the spells or the mp cost?

    I'm not gonna bring out the dipping sauce before I bring out the main dish. We were able to wait until the end of time for 1.18. I think we'll survive a little longer for a COMPLETE job system update.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    Funny! You said that a couple of posts back too! So you're just a bad troll?
    I read page 1 to half of page 2 then skipped to my replies (and commented on Griss, who I was with earlier today doing what he posted about). I meant - and I'll elaborate so we're all clear. I can't read the rest of the thread (that I skipped). I guess I should have clarified I'd be reading what people thought of what I said and argue with dumbasses who are trying to make me look dumb by derailing the thread off topic and into semantic wars.

    Wait is that right? Am I winning?

    Anyway, let it go. I'm here and I support Mage Strike!
    I think supporting the TC is the opposite of trolling.
    Unless he was trolling to begin with, which I don't think he was but that's in the eye of the beholder I guess.

    *brain aneurism*
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  6. #136
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    I support the mage strike...but in my own way of a MP-hose pipe ban, thats right one heal per person per fight regardless of wether I have 1307MP or more

    Most of the changes made are simple case of the carriage before the horse. They broken the game in order to fix it, Im ok with it so long as they actually fix it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    -Did you level Thaumaturge or Conjurer to cap to find out your role is now reversed?
    -Are you thrilled with the idea of casting Sacrifice 3 five separate times to get the effect you used to get from 1 cast?
    -Are you pissed that healing magic now costs 130 MP while your broken nukes still cost 20-30 MP?
    -Does it make sense that DoW have auto attack at their range but you don't have it at your range?
    -Does it make sense that DoW can use their abilities on recast timers but healing magic can only be used a very small amount of times per fight?

    http://loyarburok.s3.amazonaws.com/2...s5-450x249.jpg


    -Are you upset about 10 second recast on your normal attack?
    -Are you upset about 30 second recast on your normal aoe attack
    -Are you upset that now you have no practical alternative to being a main healer?
    -Are you looking forward to sitting out of fights while you regen MP, while the rest of your party keeps playing?
    -Did you level Thaumaturge or Conjurer to cap to be a debuffer or nuker and now find that you are nothing more than a WHITE MAGE playing whack-a-mole?
    -Is it fair to have to sit on the sidelines, whereas before you could be using abilities, debuffing, buffing, or causing damage over time?
    -Is it fair that you can't generate mana but your allies can generate TP?

    I ASK YOU! Are you tired of having your playstyle dictated to you by changing rules?

    http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-cont...er-500x318.jpg

    Then MAGE STRIKE is here. Send a message to the dev team that you expect a quality of play on parity with other classes, that you don't want to be locked into White Mage, either by the job system or by high MP costs that make your healing spells take top priority in MP management. Send a message that you want an ACTIVE playstyle, limited only by yourself, not frivolous restrictions. Demand CUSTOMER SERVICE, not "we will look into it".

    http://loyarburok.s3.amazonaws.com/2...s1-450x243.jpg

    And if you want to condemn the voices of others, ask yourself if you would like to sit outside combat in passive mode regenerating TP before you could take action in the fight.. let he who would regenerate TP outside of combat cast the first stone.
    Problem is the roles were never reversed and from the get go Conjurer was supposed to the the White Mage of the group and the THM was the Red Mage more or less. Sure actually CON was more WHM/BLM and THM was RDM/DOTs DD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    Its like these ppl complaining about things already have not even logged in yet? You can't start rage threads based on patch notes and expect ppl to take you seriously. The game has been injected with much needed strategy now.

    I swear if I hear "SE is not gonna dictate my play style! RAGEQUITE" again i'm gonna explode...

    Fav quotes of patch "Now I can't solo NM's anymore? this is BS I quite~!", "SE is not gonna tell me how to play", "Now I can't spam cure for 12mp this is BS!", "how can my archer solo w/o unlimited MP?", "wtf now I have to manage my mp I'm going back abyssia!"
    AGREE

    I am realy shocked abour all this hot threads. Only ratkids wowtars sound like.

    Realy? You say you level a class till 50 and now are you crying becouse get a nerf? Are you sure you buught a MMO and no a Call of duty RPG version? You ppl are ( QQers ) really pathetic. Sound to me just like hacker in FPS games. Just wabt to play in easy-god-do-evrething-good MODE. Just leave the game if you can't take a time to learn to play wisely. Not spam X. Solo a NM whit a thm and rank a lor xploiting the leve system.

    Really. I am rank 50 about 3 or 4 months ago. And i admit 40 to 50 was xploiting. But when i did that i know was a gift, a bug, an exploit. All ppl whit two fingers i. Front of them know is not for ever. And is not good. Is over

    I love the changes. And for sure i hope more and the refinement of already exist.

    So. Less QQing and expend your time learning to play. To use your mp wisely. To tank like a tank. To do dps like a real DD. Controling u and helping tank to hold the enmity. Is an MMO. Casual or not. Mostly is a team play. Not a solo play whit BOTs

    Finish. Raise 3 please. Can i have it? Reward: Huge black matter
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  9. #139
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    Women didn't get to choose if they like to be men and black people didnt get to choose if they are gonna be black so there is not an issue of racism here.
    I chose to be a melee DD and now I am a pugilist, you guys chose to be healers and you have to learn to be healers, that's all I know, everything else is just complaints because you want to be both DDs AND healers, AND Tanks AND whatever else god knows you wanna be.

    Sorry that can't happen, either play as another class, or wait for an attacking mage class to pop, or quit the game.
    An idea like a "Mage strike" can only sound funny to me (and it is).
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    Shai, I've noticed you're comparing class discrimination with sexism and racism.
    You can very easily change your class, Sex and Race are not so easy to change. Please keep those kinds of comparisons out of this.
    A better and more accurate comparison would be low wage jobs like Sales Associate or Cashier.
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