Hi! I'll join! Woops! I'll be going now! Dinner is ready!

[Hyrist]

It is because this is a recreation, that you cannot ask the same commitment out of another as you are providing in a randomized group. And the fact that there are players here attempting to apply another's value of hobbies to theirs is nothing new, nor is it correct.

This has long been an argumentative precedent in hobbies. In bowling, you have the serious leagues, and you have the casual ones. Neither are wrong for their approach, but the serious leagues often forget they're using a casual venue to press their hobby.

In short, if your using Duty finder to fill in a pug? You're in the casual league, and you're playing by casual rules. Don't like it? Don't Pug. SE already accommodates the more dedicated by allowing experts and hard mode roulette to be completed in a party, as well as the use of Party Finder. It's the best they can do when you figure they're trying to accommodate millions.

Real Life is more important than a video game hobby, period. It's on the player to not abuse that fact, but it does not change the truth of it. Trying to judge the equivalent of a person you meet on the field for a casual game of golf to act the same way as you, simply because you chose to sign up for the local golf club, is kinda crazy.

It goes both ways, but you don't judge another for having a busier life, or valuing the hobby less than you when you're relying on the system that pools you with someone who treats the game more casually than you.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Aye I can agree on it working both ways. I have no issues if someone leaves to a emergency but it's mainly things like "oh Dinner is ready" then leave 2 mins after entering or I have work in 15 mins knowing well they there getting into a fight that has a good chance of it lasting more then 15 mins.

[HakuroDK]

This is kind of a pain, people who join a group only to leave almost immediately after. It's silly.

[Yukariko]

I find it interesting that "oh dinner is ready" and leaves is usually about the time it takes for a LEARNING GROUP to wipe 3 times on ex primal.

I encounter this "coincidence" quite a lot.

[Grotesque]

Same with Nexus Farm Runs. Almost after every run "smoke/drink/toilet". I mean, for almost all of these you can use a full or empty bottle of



No need to be AFK

[Snootles]

I mean, for almost all of these you can use a full or empty bottle


No need to be AFK

That made me laugh. I've actually yelled that to the guys in our primal parties, just for giggles. They said they had to go loo and I just yelled 'You're a guy, use a bottle!'.

Anyway, yes RL > anything. But for the love of God, use your brain. If you have to go to school in 10, don't raid. Go do a FATE. If you know someone is making dinner, GO HELP THEM! Why are you on a blasted videogame? Set the table, do the dishes, clear out the garbage. Make yourself useful in RL instead of making yourself a hinderance to others in an MMO.
Basically, don't queue up or join a PF if you know that you have to leave soon. In case of kids? Explain the situation beforehand, I'm sure no one would mind and everyone would understand. If they wouldn't, they're not the players you should be hanging out with then in the first place.

[Ignnis]

Once I was OT on titan HM (via roulette) and half way through the 3rd phase I got a call from my mother asking for me to come to her house to watch the builders while she had to go to the docs because she was ill. After the 3rd wipe I said that I needed to leave in 10 mins to catch a bus to do this and one of the healers immediately got on my case and kept snipping at me, it was really annoying. Only after I said: "Well I apologise on my mothers behalf for being ill and the bus drivers behalf for working to a timetable for me having to leave then" and then explaining that my first phone call was her asking me to come around at very short notice. We managed to clear it and I literally had to run out the door as soon as I got out the instance.

How was I meant to know that this would happen? The healer said to me "You shouldn't join a titan fight because they always take ages", right, for starters, titan fights don't always take ages, second it was via roulette and I can't read the future and lastly have some decency and don't auto assume people are leaving because they're too stupid to tell the time.

I was in that instance for around 30 mins, thats the longest I've ever been in there and I was OT anyway, not like you were going to be missing much.

[Laerune]

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I think in your case its pretty understandbale, those players should not rage on you. It is a emergency afterall.

On-topic

I can understand if you have a emergency or something happend that you did not expect like a sibling who needs a lift or your kid is awake etc. What I dont understand is when players join a dungeon knowing that after 10-15 minutes, they have to log off and head to school or work. I am a student and I know that logging in at 7 AM so I can do a run is not going to work for me or the rest of the group. I will take the spot of someone who could have done the whole run and I wish alot more players understood this. Its obvious that some players (DPS) have a longer queue, so they want to finish the dungeon fast, so they can head to wherever it is that they need to go.

But can you guys (quiters) please explain to me why you join a dungeon knowing that you have to leave in 1-15 minutes?

PS: I hate when they log off without leaving the group.

[Galliano]

It's one of those a Rock stuck in a hard place.

I think you mean stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[WinterSolstice]

This thread is just repeating the same points over and over.

Leave because of an emergency or something you don't have control over?: You're fine, everyone that isn't a child will understand.
Leave because of something you knew prior or have complete control over?: You're most likely a jerk and a large waste of other's time.

Just be considerate and don't join something if you need to leave before it might be over. Sure, you could get a lucky fast run, or you could get a longer average run. Don't inconvenience others because you are impatient and greedy.